I'm pretty sure that all inkjet's drain ink when idle. I've used HP and Canon printers and all used ink just standing still. They also use quite a bit of ink to purge their print heads if they've been idle for a long period.

On 8/30/2014 4:10 PM, Mark C wrote:
I'm not sure that the 3800 bleeds ink when idle - it simple parks the head and then does a mini-flush when it is powered on. I can't say say that I know that for a fact - that's what I that I have heard. At any rate - draining on 80ml cartridge in a month would is clearly a malfunction!

Mark

On 8/30/2014 3:10 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
You are correct that the epson is draining ink over time. It has to.
Otherwise the head will dry in and become unusable. Printers need to
be used often or you are just slowly bleeding ink unfortunately.

On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't count out canon's printers. Their ink is cheaper than epsons and
I think they make better printers. I've used a few of them from the
ipf8000 series and their smaller printers are just as good and produce
the same quality, though with less inks. I have a Pixma Pro 9500 mk2
that is 10 colors and a very, very good printer. The newer pixma is
even better from what I have heard.

On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <godd...@me.com> wrote:
I've been researching the 3880 as I do expect my R2400 to die soon. It's very old. For me, the question is between the 3800 and the 3000, since I so rarely print larger than an 11x17.

Between the 3800 and 3880 printers, they take the same ink cartridges, physically, but the inks are different with respect to the magentas. Most of the ink carts can be used in either, the magentas are model specific.

3800, 3880
Photo Black T580100
Cyan T580200
Yellow T580400
Light Cyan T580500
Light Black T580700
Matte Black T580800
Light Light Black T580900

3800
Magenta T580300
Light Magenta T580600

3880
Vivid Magenta T580A00
Light Vivid Magenta T580B00

Godfrey

On Aug 30, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Mark C <pdml-m...@charter.net> wrote:

Trying to print a photo yesterday on my Epson 3800 I found that the photo black ink cartridge appears to be empty, even though I just replaced it a month ago and have run only a handful of prints since then. The maintenance cartridge, which I also replaced last month, is showing 35% full, which is way too full so quickly. When I went to fire up the print last month the photo black was also empty then - though then as now it shows nearly full on the printers usage gauge. My guess is that the PK ink is slowly draining into the maintenance tray when the printer is idle.

I'm thinking about replacing this with a 3880, basically the same printer but with the updated K3 inks (vivid magenta).

Is anyone here using the 3880 now? Any comments on it? I have found that the 3800 has met my relatively low volume needs for the past 6 or 7 years, with my only complaint being that it is a little flimsy on the build quality. If the 3880 is the same that would be OK.

Does anyone know if the 3880 can use the same ink cartridges as the 3800? The ones I have in the 3800 are all 80% full or more and I have 8 new cartridges on hand - all tolled that is almost $1,000 worth of ink. I may be able to sell the sealed cartridges but am sure I could not sell the ones installed in the printer now. Looking on the web it appears the the two printers can use the same cartridges but if that is the case, where do the upgraded K3 inks come into play with the 3880?

Any comments would be appreciated -

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