Norman,

Our schematic library is about 1.5Meg and footprint library about 5meg.  To me 
those sizes are not outrageous.  One thing that is important when using 
sourcesafe with .ddb files is to make sure that the 'Compact Design after 
closing' is enabled.  You will find that option from the design explorer - down 
arrow (next to File menu) - design utilities.

Just wondering, when your colleague says HUGE, what actual file sizes is he 
seeing?

About DXP 2004.  We have just upgraded (last week), however won't be using it 
until we upgrade our computers next month.  The libraries that come with 2004 
look to be quite comprehensive, both schematic and footprint.  So at this early 
stage, I am really unsure as to how we might integrate our 99se libs with 
2004's, or whether we will at all.  None of our libraries have simulation 
models attached, I think that many of the 2004 libraries might do, so that may 
influence what we do as well.  I don't know yet!  What I would like to be able 
to do is somehow link 2004 libraries into our database, however, our database 
system is an archaic dos based "Relational Database System" that won't relate 
to anything!  Anyway, once we've had time to have a look at what our options 
are, I'll certainly be back to this forum to ask some questions.

About 2004 version control.  It does interface to sourcesafe (and others), so 
you still need to use your existing version control software for centralised 
version control.  If you don't want to have a centralised version control, 2004 
does provide a locally based version control.

Cheers for now,
Gareth.





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Gareth/John/All,

Has anyone who does use ddb's with SourceSafe found that the SourceSafe 
database ends up HUGE? I found out that my colleague has tried it but had 
this problem (I really should speak with him more we're in the same 
office!).

Does anyone know if this is easier with 2004 than 99SE? I think we'd look 
at 2004 if it would help us with this but it also depends how many other 
new techniques etc we'd have to learn and if the upgrade is worthwhile.

I've already found this 
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00295.html and this 
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00917.html

it seems 2004 has something to take care of version control, in which case 
I'd only need to store the central libraries in SourceSafe.

Thanks to all.

Best Regards

Norman Webster

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> Hello Norman, John...
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> John, thankyou for pointing me to the kb article.  I was 
> unaware of the sourcesafe/.ddb issue.
> Here we actually use .ddb's with sourcesafe.  The only issue 
> I am aware of is that it is necessary to close down 
> protel99se prior to checking in/out .ddb library files.

Gareth

Perhaps as the files are locked until you actually close P99SE? Sometimes
even waiting for the process to stop afetr a long session.

Sometimes if the application crashes and has to be terminated you will see 
a
.ldb file of the same name as the .ddb present in the same path (if you
allow view of system files :-) )

John
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