If people want some predictable pricing because of departmental budgets, why
would they bank on getting a deal through the fire sale? It's like I said,
pay the maintenance cost if that's what is comforting to your business and
get whatever you get whenever, or just buy it when you can or see value in
it. 

I still ask anyone to offer up an EDA company which has better pricing,
better performance and better licensing flexibility. No one ever seems to be
able to answer those questions. 

What does Orcad SCH and Orcad PCB cost these days? Allegro? PowerPCB? What's
the annual fees for those? What progress has there been in the last 10 years
in those applications?



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brad Velander
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:19 PM
To: Protel EDA Discussion List
Subject: RE: [PEDA] 6.0 ?

Brain,
        Besides my obvious vent about their practices, I just don't see
where Altium's actions are working in their favour or anybody else's. With
the possible exception of the small independent contractors that can (but
probably shouldn't) make split second spending decisions. They are holding
these fire sales semi-annually on average and fire sales don't do anything
but placate the short minded quarterly report readers.

        I would also agree that Altium should exercise some real business
acumen, setting relatively fixed pricing (quantity discounts included),
fixed SP release schedules and fixed upgrade schedules. These need not be
tied down to a particular day but should reflect realistic expectations with
some allowance for slippage. Then at least everyone could reasonably plan
and budget for their tool upgrades, etc..

        Their fire sales also interfere with the proper marketing of their
annual maintenance program because people can't justify the maintenance cost
when they keep banking on getting a deal through the historical fire sale
antics (anybody who reads Abd ul-Rahman's posts promoting this fact knows
exactly what I mean). Then with reliable annual maintenance revenues they
can increase profitability because it is continuous revenue that requires
very little sales or customer service support, if any. Not to mention then
they can focus their sales effort on new customers rather than cold calling
existing customers every few months with the latest fire sale offer.

Sincerely,
Brad Velander
Senior PCB Designer
Northern Airborne Technology
#14 - 1925 Kirschner Road,
Kelowna, BC, V1Y 4N7.
tel (250) 763-2329 ext. 225
fax (250) 762-3374



-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 3:55 PM
To: Protel EDA Discussion List
Subject: Re: [PEDA] 6.0 ?


  Yes, I also feel as if Altium's sales strategy tries to focus on the get 
quick money from a small single person user, while the product they are 
selling requires at least a small business' budgetary decision.  I think 
Altium could make more money by fine tuning their sales strategy to match 
their product's price tag instead of going for the quick buck.


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Brian G.

 
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