Duane Foster wrote: >Good point... also you could change the width of the keepout lines to get >your clearance around the edge of the board... more than one way to skin a >cat depending on where you want to end up... > >duane > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of M P >>Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 4:46 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [PEDA] Fwd: 99SE PCB Component gone afar. >> >> >>Duane, >> >>if you setup a clearance rule between keepout object kind and >>whole board, >>you could have outlines on keepout layer identical to real >>board outlines >>(probably found on some other layer). >> >>Igor >> >> >> >>>From: "Duane Foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Reply-To: Protel EDA Discussion List <[email protected]> >>>To: "Protel EDA Discussion List" <[email protected]> >>>Subject: Re: [PEDA] Fwd: 99SE PCB Component gone afar. >>>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:59:04 -0700 >>> >>>If I use the autorouter, then I usually draw the keepout >>> >>> >>inside of the >> >> >>>actual board outline. So I have usually used the drill >>> >>> >>drawing layer for >> >> >>>the board outline. This is 99SE and earlier of course. >>> >>>duane >>> >>> >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of >>>> >>>> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >>>>Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:53 PM >>>>To: [email protected] >>>>Subject: Re: [PEDA] Fwd: 99SE PCB Component gone afar. >>>> >>>> >>>>All/anyone... >>>> >>>>Just for curiosity's sake, isn't the keepout layer the >>>>proscribed layer >>>>for defining board outlines? It's been quite a while (20 >>>>years) but as I >>>>recall, Protel manuals specified use of the keepout layer for >>>>just that >>>>purpose in their tutorials. >>>> >>>>aj >>>> >>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Elson >>>>>Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 4:09 PM >>>>>To: Protel EDA Discussion List >>>>>Subject: Re: [PEDA] Fwd: 99SE PCB Component gone afar. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>David Cary wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Dear Brad Velander, >>>>>> >>>>>>Thank you. This is something I will add to the FAQ. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>http://massmind.org/techref/app/pwb_design_flow.htm#placement_FAQ >>>> >>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>David Cary >>>>>> >>>>>>On 4/13/06, Brad Velander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>... Used to be that when I updated a PCB and it brought in >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>the new components, they were typically in the very top right >>>>>quadrant of the working space (to hell and gone). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>I don't know what has changed but more recently I get the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>components coming in just to the right and upwards from my >>>>>board outline. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Actually I just thought of what it could have been >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>that changed for me. Do you use the keepout layer for your >>>>>board outlines? Here at my new employer that is something I am >>>>>now doing different than previously, we use the Keepout layer >>>>>for our board outline. I will have to test that, previously I >>>>>used Mech Layer 1 for my board outlines and typically had >>>>>nothing on the keepout layer. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>Yes, if the keepout border exists, the parts hug to the right >>>>>of it. If no keepout primitives are found, then the parts go >>>>>to the upper right edge of the workspace, kind of out in >>>>> >>>>> >>neverland. >> >> >>>>>Jon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>____________________________________________________________ >>>>>You are subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum >>>>> >>>>>To Post messages: >>>>>mailto:[email protected] >>>>> >>>>>Unsubscribe and Other Options: >>>>>http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com >>>>> >>>>>Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): >>>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>>> >>>>>Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): >>>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>This e-mail transmission and its attachments may contain >>>>information from Avtron Manufacturing, Inc. that is >>>>proprietary, privileged and/or confidential and is intended >>>>exclusively for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. 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One fab house took my 200 mil keepout, which I intended as a power plane setback, as board edge, thereby shaving PCB size. They automatically apply a standard setback. Now I use keepouts only in-house, and draw setbacks as (negative) lines on the plane layers.
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