Supplement: Please replace in my text "dicisign" with "sinsign", and "dicent" with "dicisign". I only knew the word "dicent" for "dicisign", and thought, that "dicisign" was a synonym for "sinsign", because of the ending "sign".
I would say, it is not an argument, because there is no "because" or "therefore" in its message (no syllogism), but only a statement of combination. In the sign relaition it is a combination of the outer shape, the shapes of the elements, and the dispersion oft he elements in the outer shape. So the dicisign is that there is some combination. The interpretant relation too is that of combination, such as: "Weapons have to do with the structure of the US". This is a statement, not an argument, therefore a dicent, I think. Object relation is more complex, id say: there are icons that are indices too. The outer shape is an icon for the outer shape of the country, and an index for the country as a whole, the guns are token-indices for guns as a type, the dispersion is an icon (or an index?) for structure, and the combination of these three aspects is an index, I think: Combination in the exponate indicates a combination in the world. This is not an icon, because the three elements, or at least two, are already indices. Am I right with assuming, that an icon cannot contain indices, that one sub-index makes the whole thing be not an icon, but an index?
Best,
Helmut
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 02. Oktober 2014 um 22:05 Uhr
Von: "Jon Awbrey" <jawb...@att.net>
An: "Gary Richmond" <gary.richm...@gmail.com>
Cc: "Evgenii Rudnyi" <use...@rudnyi.ru>, Peirce-L <peirce-l@list.iupui.edu>
Betreff: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Example of Dicisign?
Von: "Jon Awbrey" <jawb...@att.net>
An: "Gary Richmond" <gary.richm...@gmail.com>
Cc: "Evgenii Rudnyi" <use...@rudnyi.ru>, Peirce-L <peirce-l@list.iupui.edu>
Betreff: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Example of Dicisign?
Gary,
You are free
to interpret
it diversely.
It possesses
no owntology.
Jon
Gary Richmond wrote:
> Jon, Evgenii, lists,
>
> Well, Jon, if what you say is true, now that I've looked at the video of
> "Gun Country"--which I hadn't earlier (only the still shots)--I've decided
> that, given the context (people walking around it, relating to it),
> that it *could
> be* interpreted as an argument.
>
> But that's a stretch. And I'm not so certain of the correctness of your
> 'rule'
>
> Best,
>
> Gary R.
>
>
> *Gary Richmond*
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> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Jon Awbrey <jawb...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> Evgenii,
>>
>> As a rule,
>> A sign is
>> what it's
>> interpre-
>> ted to be.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
>>
>>> A question to better understand what dicisign is. Can one say that Gun
>>> Country by Michael Murphy is a dicisign?
>>>
>>> http://www.artprize.org/michael-murphy/2014/gun-country
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Evgenii
>>>
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You are free
to interpret
it diversely.
It possesses
no owntology.
Jon
Gary Richmond wrote:
> Jon, Evgenii, lists,
>
> Well, Jon, if what you say is true, now that I've looked at the video of
> "Gun Country"--which I hadn't earlier (only the still shots)--I've decided
> that, given the context (people walking around it, relating to it),
> that it *could
> be* interpreted as an argument.
>
> But that's a stretch. And I'm not so certain of the correctness of your
> 'rule'
>
> Best,
>
> Gary R.
>
>
> *Gary Richmond*
> *Philosophy and Critical Thinking*
> *Communication Studies*
> *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York*
> *C 745*
> *718 482-5690*
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Jon Awbrey <jawb...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> Evgenii,
>>
>> As a rule,
>> A sign is
>> what it's
>> interpre-
>> ted to be.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
>>
>>> A question to better understand what dicisign is. Can one say that Gun
>>> Country by Michael Murphy is a dicisign?
>>>
>>> http://www.artprize.org/michael-murphy/2014/gun-country
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Evgenii
>>>
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