Hi everyone:

"We can then (inductively) experiment with actual diamonds to find out
whether, in fact, this is the case."

Where is genuine doubt?

Thanks,
Jerry R

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt <jonalanschm...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Clark, List:
>
> As (hopefully) clarified in my subsequent messages, I am not saying that
> the PM itself is "deductive"; rather, it serves as the rule for admitting
> hypotheses to the deductive stage of inquiry once they have been produced
> and justified--because they plausibly account for the facts--by abduction.
>
> CSP:  For the maxim of pragmatism is that a conception can have no logical
> effect or import differing from that of a second conception except so far
> as, taken in connection with other conceptions and intentions, it might
> conceivably modify our practical conduct differently from that second
> conception.  Now it is indisputable that no rule of abduction would be
> admitted by *any *philosopher which should prohibit on any formalistic
> grounds any inquiry as to how we ought in consistency to shape our
> practical conduct.  Therefore, a maxim which looks only to possibly
> practical considerations will not need any supplement in order to exclude
> any hypotheses as inadmissible.  What hypotheses it admits all philosophers
> would agree ought to be admitted.  On the other hand, if it be true that 
> nothing
> but such considerations has any logical effect or import whatever, it is
> plain that the maxim of pragmatism cannot cut off any kind of hypothesis
> which ought to be admitted.  Thus, the maxim of pragmatism, if true,
> fully *covers *the entire logic of abduction. (CP 5.196)
>
>
> My earlier point was that identifying *how *a conception "might
> conceivably modify our practical conduct" seems like (deductive)
> explication to me--the hypothesis that a diamond is hard means, for one
> thing, "that it will not be scratched by many other substances" (CP
> 5.403).  We can then (inductively) experiment with actual diamonds to find
> out whether, in fact, this is the case.  In Peirce's words that I quoted
> previously, the PM also "cut[s] down *the premisses* of deduction" by
> rejecting hypotheses that have no bearing on "possibly practical
> considerations," and thus do not warrant any further attention.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
> Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman
> www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt
>
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Clark Goble <cl...@lextek.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 28, 2016, at 7:55 AM, Jon Alan Schmidt <jonalanschm...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The PM pertains primarily to deduction (explication), not abduction;
>> which is why it contributes to security, but not to uberty.  I wonder if
>> another way to highlight the distinction is to assign the PM to logical
>> critic, but pragmaticism as a whole to methodeutic.
>>
>> Why do you see it as primarily deductive? I ask since the mature form of
>> the pragmatic maxim is to consider all the possible consequences (meaning
>> practical differences we can detect). That seems inherently an abductive
>> consideration although the actual measurement would be a combination of
>> deductive and inductive against a perhaps more abductive theoretical
>> scaffolding. But any particular detection that something is hard is
>> different from the meaning of say a diamond being hard.
>>
>
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