Jon S., Gary R., list,

Jon, you wrote,

   CP 5.189 can and does produce hypotheses that "explain the facts,"
   yet are /not/ "capable of experimental verification," and thus are
   /not/ admissible for subsequent deductive explication and inductive
   evaluation.  In other words, an abduction that fully conforms to CP
   5.189 may nevertheless turn out to be a /bad/ abduction; whereas
   /any/ abduction whose resulting hypothesis passes the test of the PM
   and (ultimately) the other two stages of inquiry is a /good/ abduction.
   [End quote]

Excellent point. I could kick myself for not having seen that clearly, despite my own going on about the difference between critic (including CP 5.189) and methodeutic (including the pragmatic maxim). I would add one further point about your last clause,

   whereas /any/ abduction whose resulting hypothesis passes the test
   of the PM and (ultimately) the other two stages of inquiry is a
   /good/ abduction.
   [End quote]

An abductive inference may be good and successful in terms of the economics of inquiry, even if it turns out to conclude in a falsehood, if it nevertheless helps research by either making it positively fruitful (think of all the hypotheses that positively help lead to truth without scoring a 'hole in one') or at least by leading to knowledge of a previously unknown dead end that would otherwise have caused waste of time and energy. This reflects the heuretic view of inquiry as opposed to the view concerned mainly with justifying already-accepted conclusions. (I said something like this at peirce-l in May but, in passing, accepted what I took to be my interlocutor's sense of "successful" abduction as meaning an abductive conclusion's being true.)

Best, Ben

On 9/30/2016 8:05 PM, Gary Richmond wrote:

Jon, List,

You wrote: I think that the discussion over the last several days has also very helpfully clarified the distinction between logical critic and methodeutic. In particular, CP 5.189 falls under logical critic and pertains /only/ to abduction, while the PM--like pragmat[ic]ism itself--falls under methodeutic and pertains to a /complete/ inquiry.

Yes, I agree that the discussion has helped clarify this distinction. While logical /critic/ concerns itself with the nature and strength of the three types of inferences, /methodeutic/ concerns itself with these three patterns of inference as /together/ they figure in a complete inquiry.

Thus, as you concluded: /any/ abduction whose resulting hypothesis passes the test of the PM and (ultimately) the other two stages of inquiry is a /good/ abduction.

And perhaps this also helps explain why the third branch of logic as semiotic was alternatively termed theoretic /rhetoric/ by Peirce. For it is through a complete inquiry involving a testable hypothesis that we are /persuaded/ that some given hypothesis "explains the facts," that is, that it is a "good" abduction.

Best,

Gary R

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On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt <jonalanschm...@gmail.com <mailto:jonalanschm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Gary R., List:

Thanks for your kind words. I think that the discussion over the last several days has also very helpfully clarified the distinction between logical critic and methodeutic. In particular, CP 5.189 falls under logical critic and pertains /only/ to abduction, while the PM--like pragmat[ic]ism itself--falls under methodeutic and pertains to a /complete/ inquiry.

    CSP:  Long before I first classed abduction as an inference it
    was recognized by logicians that the operation of adopting an
    explanatory hypothesis--which is just what abduction is--was
    subject to certain conditions.  Namely, the hypothesis cannot be
    admitted, even as a hypothesis, unless it be supposed that it
    would account for the facts or some of them.  The form of
    inference, therefore, is this:

        The surprising fact, C, is observed;
        But if A were true, C would be a matter of course,
        Hence, there is reason to suspect that A is true. (CP 5.189,
        EP 2.231)

But merely accounting for the facts (or some of them) is not enough for a hypothesis to be admitted to the further stages of a complete inquiry. As Ben U. brought to our attention ...

    BU:  Remember that in the Carnegie Application (1902) he said,
    "Methodeutic has a special interest in abduction, or the
    inference which starts a scientific hypothesis. For it is not
    sufficient that a hypothesis should be a justifiable one. Any
    hypothesis which explains the facts is justified critically. But
    among justifiable hypotheses we have to select that one which is
    suitable for being tested by experiment." That adverb
    "critically" is a reference to logical critic, the critique of
    arguments. In the rest of that quote he is discussing why
    methodeutic gets involved.

In other words, the PM is /required/ before we can take that next step. In fact, Peirce also explicitly stated this /later in the very same lecture/ in which he presented CP 5.189.

    CSP:  If you carefully consider the question of pragmatism you
    will see that it is nothing else than the question of the logic
    of abduction.  That is, pragmatism proposes a certain maxim
    which, if sound, must render needless any further rule as to the
    admissibility of hypotheses to rank as hypotheses, that is to
    say, as explanations of phenomena held as hopeful suggestions;
    and, furthermore, this is /all/ that the maxim of pragmatism
    really pretends to do, at least so far as it is confined to
    logic, and is not understood as a proposition in psychology.  For
    the maxim of pragmatism is that a conception can have no logical
    effect or import differing from that of a second conception
    except so far as, taken in connection with other conceptions and
    intentions, it might conceivably modify our practical conduct
    differently from that second conception. (CP 5.196, EP 2.234)

Rather than CP 5.189, it is the PM (as formulated here) that, "if sound, must render needless any further rule as to the admissibility of hypotheses." Peirce subsequently explained why this is so.

    CSP:  Admitting, then, that the question of Pragmatism is the
    question of Abduction, let us consider it under that form.  What
    is good abduction?  What should an explanatory hypothesis be to
    be worthy to rank as a hypothesis?  Of course, it must explain
    the facts.  But what other conditions ought it to fulfill to be
    good?  The question of the goodness of anything is whether that
    thing fulfills its end.  What, then, is the end of an explanatory
    hypothesis? Its end is, through subjection to the test of
    experiment, to lead to the avoidance of all surprise and to the
    establishment of a habit of positive expectation that shall not
    be disappointed.  Any hypothesis, therefore, may be admissible,
    in the absence of any special reasons to the contrary, provided
    it be capable of experimental verification, and only insofar as
    it is capable of such verification.  This is approximately the
    doctrine of pragmatism. (CP 5.197, EP 2.235)

CP 5.189 can and does produce hypotheses that "explain the facts," yet are /not/ "capable of experimental verification," and thus are /not/ admissible for subsequent deductive explication and inductive evaluation. In other words, an abduction that fully conforms to CP 5.189 may nevertheless turn out to be a /bad/ abduction; whereas /any/ abduction whose resulting hypothesis passes the test of the PM and (ultimately) the other two stages of inquiry is a /good/ abduction.

Regards,

Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
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On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Gary Richmond <gary.richm...@gmail.com <mailto:gary.richm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

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