"Jon Alan Schmidt" <jonalanschm...@gmail.com> wrote:
HR: my point was, that a token is embodied, but a molecule has no clear borders (of it´s body) ...
ET: in the biological realm, the token has a different and additional facet. Each token is more or less unique from other tokens even if they all belong to the same TYPE.
ET: The fact that in the biological realm, each individual token might be slightly different, enables this realm to provide more adaptive diversity - and less stability.
Helmut, list - the molecule doesn't need to have a discrete self with distinct borders in order to be a 'token' of a 'type'. The fact that its composition is specific; i.e., a specific number of electrons/protons/neutrons - gives it a distinct identity that differentiates it from another TYPE of chemical.
in the biological realm, the token has a different and additional facet. Each token is more or less unique from other tokens even if they all belong to the same TYPE. That is, a particular species of dog will, each one, be slightly different in temperament and even look, but all will be members of ONE particular Type/Breed of dog. But - in the physico-chemical realm, the majority of tokens are similar. This gives the physico-chemical realm a great deal of stability. The fact that in the biological realm, each individual token might be slightly different, enables this realm to provide more adaptive diversity - and less stability.
I agree with your outline of the difference between the two realms - the biological realm moved differentiation INTO each separate Token, removing the constant bonding to all other Tokens, so that changes from the Type could emerge rapidly and in response to local stimuli.
Edwina
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On Sun 09/04/17 12:32 AM , "Helmut Raulien" h.raul...@gmx.de sent:Edwina, List,my point was, that a token is embodied, but a molecule has no clear borders (of it´s body), as it contains electrons, whose orbitals are borderless, and the gravitation (and other fields) of the molecule also is borderless. Borders in physical-chemical- world are defined by humans, eg. "75% probability of electron presence". In animate world, organisms have clear borders, their skin surface. Their body contains their needs-affairs of final causation. So maybe, if a token is embodied, it only appears in self-defined bodies, that would be in animate world of final cause? (...But, if in the supposedly inanimate physicalchemical world, there obviously is a token-type-relation, like law-logos, this again would mean, that the "inanimate" world is not inanimate).Best, Helmut
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