Helmut, List, Looking over those articles with fresh eyes this morning I see they are rather thick with abstract generalities at the beginning and it would be better to skip down to the concrete examples on a first run-through. I promise to keep that in mind the next time I rewrite them. At any rate, we can always go through the material in a more leisurely fashion on the List.
Looking back over many previous discussions, I think one of the main things keeping people from being on the same page, or even being able to understand what others write on their individual pages, is the question of what makes a relation. There's a big difference between a single ordered tuple, say, (x_1, x_2, ..., x_k), and a whole set of ordered tuples that it takes to make up a k-place relation. The language we use to get a handle on the structure of relations goes like this: Say the variable x_1 ranges over the set X_1, and the variable x_2 ranges over the set X_2, and ... and the variable x_k ranges over the set X_k. Then the set of all possible k-tuples (x_1, x_2, ..., x_k) ranges over a set that is notated as X_1 × X_2 × ... × X_k, called the “cartesian product” of the “domains” X_1 to X_k. There are two different ways of defining a k-place relation that are in common use: 1. Some define a relation L on the domains X_1 to X_k as a subset of the cartesian product X_1 × ... × X_k, in symbols, L ⊆ X_1 × ... × X_k. 2. Others like to make the domains of the relation an explicit part of the definition, saying that a relation L is a list of domains plus a subset of their cartesian product. Sounds like a mess but it's usually pretty easy to translate between the two conventions, so long as one remains aware of difference. By way of a geometric image, we can picture the cartesian product X_1 × ... × X_k as a space in which many different relations reside, each one cutting a different figure in that space. To be continued ... Jon On 4/15/2017 12:00 AM, Jon Awbrey wrote:
Helmut, List, I think it would be a good idea to continue reviewing basic concepts and get better acquainted with the relational context that is needed to ground all the higher order functions, properties, and structures we might wish to think about. Once we understand what relations are then we can narrow down to triadic relations and then sign relations will fall more easily within our grasp. I've written up intros to these topics many times before, and you can find my latest editions, if still very much works in progress, on the InterSciWiki site, though in this case it may be preferable to take them up in order from special to general: Sign Relations http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Sign_relation Triadic Relations http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Triadic_relation Relation Theory http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Relation_theory I think most of the material you mentioned on Relational Reducibility, Compositional and Projective, is summarized in the following article: Relation Reduction http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Relation_reduction Regards, Jon
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