Mark Jones wrote:
>Incidentally, the Godley paper lays policy emphasis on import controls. This
>looks like impish humour, since it is hard to imagine how such a policy
>could be implemented without doing even more damage. As Jim Devine says, the
>cure is worse than the disease:
>
> >>To summarize, U.S. prosperity was fragile even before late 1929, due to
>the process of over-investment relative to demand and the international
>environment. Then the Crash, restrictive fiscal and monetary policy, and
>protectionism interacted to break the unstable prosperity and to accelerate
>the downward movement. This movement involved the famous
>"multiplier/accelerator" interaction, reinforced by wage-cut induced
>underconsumption, debt deflation, and international interactions. <<
>
>[(The Causes of the 1929-33 Great Collapse: A Marxian Interpretation, by
>James Devine) ]
>
>The effects of any form of undisguised wall-to-wall US protectionism on
>world trade today would be presumably, completely catastrophic, the debacle
>even worse than 1929-31. Is the Godley view that this debacle is inevitable
>anyway, so it's a case of sauve qui peut?

As my old friend Steve Zeluck used to say, the devil can quote scripture.

Anyway, I think it's a big mistake to generalize from the 1930 Hawley-Smoot 
tariff to current-day issues. (It's quite common for the "free trade 
vulgaris" crowd -- e.g., Krugman -- to fall for this trap.) The GATT (now 
called the WTO) is aimed specifically at preventing trade wars of the type 
that H-S spurred. In any event, the world political economy has changed, 
undermining the political basis for "protectionism" (as I argue later on in 
the paper that Mark quotes). When the components of a car are imported for 
assembly in the U.S., that makes even the direct benefits of protection 
more ambiguous. Further, the power of the main political forces for 
protection has faded, at least in the U.S.: these are nationally-oriented 
manufacturing, narrow-minded labor unions, and domestic agriculture. As I 
further argue in the paper, these days it's not protection that encourages 
depression as much as a world-wide process of competitive austerity and 
export promotion encouraged by the US and its IMF and World Bank and by the 
competition to attract capital investment by offering low wages, pliable 
work-forces, etc.

It's important to realize that in my full story of the origins of the Great 
Depression (http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/Faculty/JDevine/depr/Depr.html.), the 
H-S tariff plays only a small role. (It's sort of like Jar Jar's role in 
Star Wars Episode I: bad but ultimately unimportant. When I see the Jar 
Jar-free version of SW Ep I, I'm sure it will be just as bad as the 
original.) Further, it was a _product_ of an international political 
economy centering on aggressive nation-state-to-nation-state competition of 
a sort we don't see in the rich capitalist world these days. It also hit a 
world economy that was ready to fall. It should also remembered that the 
early-1920s US tariff _promoted_ US prosperity, unlike H-S. Back then, BTW, 
it was Republicans, not Democrats, who liked tariffs. Protection was the 
main Republican activist economic policy.

I'm not big into protectionism: it can create jobs in one country by taking 
jobs away from workers in another. Or -- in the VERY exceptional case of a 
H-S tariff -- it can destroy jobs for both.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] &  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine

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