It has always struck me that some Marxist and some public choice/Austrian frameworks do converge in a way on these kind of issues. Both sides see "markets" (or "capitalism") as all-pervasive. This is why in some debates in anthropology, for example, it was striking that the neoclassicals were economic determinist and the Marxists were not. Mat
-----Original Message----- From: Devine, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:16 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [PEN-L:24425] RE: Re: RE: Re: the state Ian said: >Been reading William Niskanen and William Riker lately, Jim?< I wrote: > I don't get your drift. What do these folks say, beyond the usual > "public choice school" stuff? Ian replies: > They say, in so many words, what you wrote: > > More and more, I think of state bureaucrats and politicians under > capitalism as a fraction of capital, similar to banking capital. Do they think of this as a good thing? BTW, isn't William Riker the first mate on STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION? JD