On 2002/03/28 11:55 PM, "Charles Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the state > by Carrol Cox > 27 March 2002 23:02 UTC < < < > > > > This would fit in with Wood's argument (in _Democracy against > Capitalism_) that capitalism artificially divided the political into the > two separate realms of "the political" and "the economy." If one takes > "politics" to be concerned with the allocation of human activity, then > "economics" is the guise that this political activity takes on under > capitalism. And in the latest stages of capitalism the line has become > thinner and thinner. > > Carrol > > ^^^^^^^^ > > CB: Economics is politics , and politics is concentrated economics. > Ｃomrade Carrol
If economnic is politics, for example, buyer of commodity and seller exchage commodity politically. Principle of politics is human's will. But in this situation, commodity exchange is not deternmined by political will of both.As Marx said, juditical(i.e.political) relation is but the reflux of the real economic relation. Below is from Capital "In order that these objects may enter into relation with each other as commodities, their guardians must place themselves in relation to one another, as persons whose will resides in those object, and must behave in such a way that each does not appropriate the commodity of the other, and part with his own, except by means of an act done by mutual consent. They must therefore, mutually recognise in each other the rights of private proprietors. This juridical relation, which thus expresses itself in a contract, whether such contract be part of a developed legal system or not, is a relation between two wills, and is but the reflex of the real economic relation between the two. It is this economic relation that determines the subject-matter comprised in each such juridical act. [2] The persons exist for one another merely as representatives of, and, therefore. as owners of, commodities. In the course of our investigation we shall find, in general, that the characters who appear on the economic stage are but the personifications of the economic relations that exist between them. " > Marx begins with criticism of religion,(The German Ideology) then criticism of state(Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right,,) and finally criticism of civil society. So,later marx's work include criticism of state, which is defined that"The specific economic form, in which unpaid surplus-labour is pumped out of direct producers, determines the relationship of rulers and ruled, as it grows directly out of production itself and, in turn, reacts upon it as a determining element. Upon this, however, is founded the entire formation of the economic community which grows up out of the production relations themselves, thereby simultaneously its specific political form. It is always the direct relationship of the owners of the conditions of production to the direct producers -- a relation always naturally corresponding to a definite stage in the development of the methods of labour and thereby its social productivity -- which reveals the innermost secret, the hidden basis of the entire social structure and with it the political form of the relation of sovereignty and dependence, in short, the corresponding specific form of the state. This does not prevent the same economic basis ""However, it is evident that tradition must play a dominant role in the primitive and undeveloped circumstances on which these social production relations and the corresponding mode of production are based. It is furthermore clear that here as always it is in the interest of the ruling section of society to sanction the existing order as law and to legally establish its limits given through usage and tradition. Apart from all else, this, by the way, comes about of itself as soon as the constant reproduction of the basis of the existing order and its fundamental relations assumes a regulated and orderly form in the course of time. And such regulation and order are themselves indispensable elements of any mode of production, if it is to assume social stability and independence from mere chance and arbitrariness. These are precisely the form of its social stability and therefore its relative freedom from mere arbitrariness and mere chance. Under backward conditions of the production process as well as the corresponding social relations, it achieves this form by mere repetition of their very reproduction. If this has continued on for some time, it entrenches itself as custom and tradition and is finally sanctioned as an explicit law." So Marx seeks rather integration of the economical and political than traditional marxist considers the two as separaeted domain. MIYACHI TATSUO Psychiatric Department Komaki municipal hosipital 1-20.JOHBUHSHI KOMAKI CITY AICHI PREF. 486-0044 TEL:0568-76-4131 FAX 0568-76-4145 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
