>
> > > > representative govt  ---------  NO [ditto]
>
>Carrol continues:
> > >This form of democracy has never produced democracy -- and it never
> > >will.
>
> > >It's replacement will have to be worked out in practice -- not from a
> > >blueprint I or anyone else can provide at this time.
>
> > >Representative Government can only be a dictatorship of the Capitalist
> > >Class.
>
> > As I said, almost everyone. jks
>
>so you're not going to respond to Carrol's critique? it has been one thread
>of the Marxian tradition for a long time (though not part of the Stalinist
>or social-democratic traditions and the like) to want to get rid of
>representative government, to replace it with more profound democracy. What
>is your response, Justin?
>JD

I have already responded noless dogmatically. I see no reason why 
representative govt is incompatible with public ownership of productive 
assets, workers' control of production, or even central planning. I can't 
even see the argument that it is not. Why the associated producers cannot 
elect representatives to administer the public property is hard grasp. 
Please explain, those who think this is a serious point. Btw, theargument 
for represenattive ratherthan direct democarcy is that with  a large state 
that has a lot to administer, and a big population, and a lot of rather 
technical rules and regulations to made and enforced, it is utterly 
impracticable to carry this out in a ny other way than a representative one. 
If the worry is that the representatives will become a special class 
arrogating privileges to themselves in an unjustified manner, that is a 
problem. The solution is of course elections--democracy's natural term 
limits.

jks



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