Yes. It is assumed that each player knows the payoff
to each player for each of the four possible
combination of choices. It is also assumed that the
players are both rational in that they want to
minimize their time spent in jail. There is no need to
communicate with the other person.

 There is no assumption of omniscience just knowledge
of the payoffs for each combination and that the other
person and you are both rational.

  Perhaps a short cut way of understanding the
reasoning for both to adopt the co-operation strategy
is this.
  Both are rational and the situation is symmetrical
so both will chose the same strategy. This means that
there are only two possible strategies that rational
players could choose: both defect or both co-operate.
But both defecting does not minimize the time of each
spent in jail whereas both co-operating does.
Therefore both will chose to co-operate.

Of course the traditionalists point out that two of
the possible combinations have been left out of the
reasoning. True enough but because both will choose
the same strategy, being rational, a different choice
by each is not really a possibility. In fact allowing
them as possibilities is what leads to the traditional
"irrational" solution.

Cheers, Ken Hanly

--- Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ken hanly wrote:
> >It is not that some definition of rational is
> contradictory it is
> that the traditional solution of the dilemma is not
> rational according
> to the standard definition because it does not lead
> to the least time
> served for the players. <
>
> if you are an individualistic prisoner (thinking
> only of your own
> fate), if you don't have any information except the
> offers that your
> captors tell you about, and if you can't communicate
> with the other
> prisoner, how can you conceivably act to minimize
> your time served?
> are you assuming that the "players" know the game
> matrix?
>
> To say that the "traditional solution" is not
> "rational" because it
> "does not lead to the least time" seems to assume
> that rationality
> involves omniscience. It's "social rationality," but
> most people don't
> think -- or can't think -- in those terms.
>
> Again, I bow before anyone's superior knowledge of
> game theory.
>
> > The actual solution is rational. For some reason
> that I dont fathom Hosfstadter wants to
> distinguish rationality from super-rationality and
> call the standard
> solution rational but his super-rational.<
>
> maybe "super-rationality" involves the
> aforementioned omniscience?
> --
> Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le
> genti." (Go your own
> way and let people talk.) --  Karl, paraphrasing
> Dante.
>


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