Chris et al.

I am working on a generic Alien:: framework called Alien::Base, hosted
at my gh:

https://github.com/jberger/Alien-Base .

I submitted a proposal to tpf a small grant, here is the text for the concept:

https://gist.github.com/1616923

Once this works, it should make Alien:: modules much easier to write.

Joel

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Chris Marshall <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Clifford Sobchuk
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> ...don't fully understand what they need to do? Even installing on Linux. I
>> have tried to build PDL from CPAN and I never get it right. The best way for
>> me is to do the apt-get install pdl and then go into cpan and do the upgrade
>> /PDL/. All of the dependencies are accounted when I do it this way. When I
>> install from cpan I always end up missing dependencies.
>
> Hi Cliff-
>
> Yes, the large number of external dependencies
> used by PDL to provide "full" functionality is an
> ongoing problem.
>
> The simplest way to install PDL on linux-ish
> systems having some sort of package manager
> is to use that to install PDL which should pull
> in packages for the needed external library
> and program dependencies.  Then use CPAN
> to upgrade to the latest PDL.
>
> There has already been discussion and decision
> on using the Alien module approach to address
> this problem---just no one volunteering to write
> the needed Alien::NetPBM, Alien::PROJ4,...
> modules.
>
>> So am I the minority of target users (people who use PDL and don't have a
>> clue at how to create their own PP modules) in not being able to get it to
>> install from cpan directly? When I use R/scilab/matlab - I use modules when
>> ever I can because it would take me weeks more time to develop a script. On
>> the other hand if your target user is a C++/Perl expert, then please
>> disregard the above as it doesn't apply.
>
> I don't think PDL has a chance of surviving as an
> active and growing project unless we can make
> it possible for anyone to "just use" PDL.  Without
> a 1-click install, easy interoperability, and good
> documentation all the non-C/Perl programmer
> scientists will be using Matlab/Octave, or NumPy,
> or ... instead.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
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