Gretchen, it's a Metal Edge box, no corrugation, but I will dispose of it once I unwrap it. I was hoping to determine the life cycle of the pest and keep it sealed long enough to know if anything else has hatched. No freezing of the painting!
On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 3:12 PM Anderson, Gretchen < anders...@carnegiemnh.org> wrote: > Ok – sounds like they may have been just hitched a ride in the box. If > you do not have to keep the box don’t. If you have to keep it for context > or what- ever then freeze the box and clean it out the best that you can. > Do not freeze the reverse glass painting. > > > Good luck. > Gretchen > > > > *From:* pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf > Of *Niver, Chris > *Sent:* Friday, May 28, 2021 4:09 PM > *To:* pestlist@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [PestList] Moth ID > > > > Gretchen, thanks for that, I would describe the color as tarnished silver. > The contents of the box was a reverse glass painting and it came from a > residence that was described as somewhat dirty. > > > > On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 3:04 PM Anderson, Gretchen < > anders...@carnegiemnh.org> wrote: > > I would be more inclined to think it is a casemaking clothes moth – > Webbing moths are lighter in color, more golden with a gold top-knot. These > appear more silvery. What was in the box and where did it come from? > > > Gretchen Anderson > > Gretchen Anderson > > Conservator > > Carnegie Museum of Natural History > > 5800 Baum Blvd. > > Pittsburgh, PA 15213 > > anders...@carnegiemnh.org > > (412)665-2607 > > > > > > > > *From:* pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf > Of *Niver, Chris > *Sent:* Friday, May 28, 2021 4:01 PM > *To:* pestlist@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [PestList] Moth ID > > > > Thanks for the reply Steph. It was the color of the wings that led me away > from webbing clothes moth. I would describe these moths as grey/brown with > an almost metallic quality. However, given the great variety in the living > world there may be webbing clothes moths that are grey. > > > > Todd, they were in the bubble wrap that was protecting a framed reverse > glass painting. I'm told that the painting had been in the box for some > time but that may be speculation. The owner of the house was deceased and > the house was described as somewhat dirty; dust, cobwebs etc. The packing > has been disposed of and the box and painting are sealed in plastic until I > get an idea of what we are dealing with. > > > > On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 2:55 PM Todd Holmberg <tholmb...@artsmia.org> > wrote: > > Chris- > > > > The contents of the box might help point towards/rule out different > varieties. Did the material in the box contain wool/feathers/fur? It > definitely does resemble a webbing clothes moth. Maybe you have already > done this, but just to confirm, hopefully the contents of the box have > either been bagged or disposed of outside the museum building. > > > > -Todd > > > > On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 2:38 PM Miles, Steph <smi...@gallery.ca> wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > > > This definitely looks like a webbing clothes moth to me. I’m no expert, > but as we’ve been combatting an infestation of these little nuisances for > 18 months I’ve seen more than my fair share of this particular species. > They also have that characteristic reddish hair tuft, and the light > brown/gold-ish wings. The size is dead on, too. > > > > Hope this helps! Happy Memorial Day Weekend 😊 > > > > > > Steph Miles (she/her/elle) > > Conservation Technician l Technicienne aux restaurations > > Prints, Drawings & Photographs l Estampes, dessins et photographies > > National Gallery of Canada l Musée des beaux-arts du Canada > > 380 Sussex, Ottawa ON, KIN 9N4 > > 613.714.6000 x6277 > > > > > > *Stay Connected > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.gallery.ca%2fvirtual-ngc&c=E,1,v-8U8f540cOfiQyJyC8JkncfLlgp87h58FgS-GCqlRBeM4XME_Ip1kF_KkAhE_zrhAfhHx7BUXm7TiOBH7Bp7dzlR0_OVV0cSMefwgqZHDMM-5Z08ueg&typo=1> > **|** Restez informé > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.beaux-arts.ca%2fmbac-virtuel&c=E,1,ZhLS6WBeTy9Ty_MkNj-3U52kPq2aU5_R8o4IYfBcDfW6JMauGmzb-FkNdDrhGgVo83vrqSht1aCbKWh85uWU_yUcxg9oaRcz_ovDC5wLcMg4MEQ,&typo=1>* > > [image: > /var/folders/_7/xzf6_lzx2cl9hbxlkch4wdjj8zqxrs/T/com.microsoft.Outlook/WebArchiveCopyPasteTempFiles/Facebook.png] > <https://www.facebook.com/nationalgallerycanada> > > [image: > /var/folders/_7/xzf6_lzx2cl9hbxlkch4wdjj8zqxrs/T/com.microsoft.Outlook/WebArchiveCopyPasteTempFiles/Twitter.png] > <https://twitter.com/NatGalleryCan> > > [image: > /var/folders/_7/xzf6_lzx2cl9hbxlkch4wdjj8zqxrs/T/com.microsoft.Outlook/WebArchiveCopyPasteTempFiles/Instagram.png] > <https://www.instagram.com/NatGalleryCan/> > > [image: > /var/folders/_7/xzf6_lzx2cl9hbxlkch4wdjj8zqxrs/T/com.microsoft.Outlook/WebArchiveCopyPasteTempFiles/Youtube.png] > <https://www.youtube.com/user/ngcmedia> > > > > > > > > > > *From:* pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf > Of *Madeline Corona > *Sent:* Friday, May 28, 2021 3:06 PM > *To:* MuseumPests <pestlist@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* Re: [PestList] Moth ID > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > It's difficult to tell from these photos, but, to me, it looks like it > might be a webbing clothes moth. I can't see any specks or spots on the > wings that are more characteristic of casemaking or brown-dotted clothes > moths (but that might just be a result of the lighting/angles in these > images). I would defer to the experts if anyone else has a different ID, > but it is definitely a species of clothes moth. > > > > Best, > > Madeline > > > > *Madeline Corona* (she/her) > > Assistant Conservator, Decorative Arts and Sculpture Conservation > Getty Museum > T (310) 440 7261 | getty.edu > <https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgetty.edu%2F&data=04%7C01%7Csmiles%40gallery.ca%7Cfaa3cecf156246bd86dc08d9220bb2ee%7C8eb07b377bfc44febb049721cdf49054%7C0%7C0%7C637578256614263425%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=B7wZ925uBRKlOllX4QxqSkmG1pICfBGxNBmLYdDeU%2B0%3D&reserved=0> > > > [image: cid:image001.png@01D753D7.40A04BC0] > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com> on behalf > of chris.niver <chris.ni...@mam.org> > *Sent:* Friday, May 28, 2021 11:49 AM > *To:* MuseumPests <pestlist@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* [PestList] Moth ID > > > > It's Friday afternoon before Memorial Day weekend so the timing isn't > great but here we go. > > > > I found 3 of these alive in a box that was brought to our museum. 7 mm > long. 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