On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:28 AM, Mark Kirkwood < mark.kirkw...@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
> On 19/12/14 20:48, Andres Freund wrote: > >> On 2014-12-18 10:02:25 -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: >> >>> I think a lot of hackers forget exactly how tender their egos are. Now I >>> say >>> this knowing that a lot of them will go, "Oh give me a break" but as >>> someone >>> who employs hackers, deals with open source AND normal people :P every >>> single day, I can tell you without a single inch of sarcasm that petting >>> egos is one of the ways you get things done in the open source (and >>> really >>> any male dominated) community. >>> >> >> To me that's a bit over the top stereotyping. >> >> > +1 > > Having been mentioned one or two times myself - it was an unexpected "wow > - cool" rather than a grumpy/fragile "I must be noticed" thing. I think > some folk have forgotten the underlying principle of the open source > community - it is about freely giving - time or code etc. The "there must > be something in it for me me me" meme is - well - the *other* world view. > > However, doing crappy work and let's not be shy about it, there is NOTHING >>> fun about reviewing someone else's code needs to have incentive. >>> >> >> FWIW, I don't agree with this at all. Reviewing code can be quite >> interesting - with the one constraint that the problem the patch solves >> needs to be somewhat interesting. The latter is what I think gets many >> of the more experienced reviewers - lots of the patches just solve stuff >> they don't care about. >> >> > Yeah, and also it helps if the patch addresses an area that you at least > know *something* about - otherwise it is really hard to review in any > useful way. > > Cheers > > Mark > > > > -- > Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) > To make changes to your subscription: > http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers > I'm trying to follow this thread as much as I could but I could've missed a part of it. Merit/credits aside what would really help Postgres right now is a more streamlined/modern (the only words I could come up with) development process. Using the mailing list for everything is alright, it works. But there is lot of tools that could be used along it: gerrit/gitlab/github/bitbucket/jira and other tools that do: pull requests, code review and bugs (or any combination of them). That'd reduce friction for new contributors and further development. These tools are being used everywhere and I find hard to believe that PG can't benefit from any of them. -- Arthur Silva
