Fair enough.

But to me the distinction is like Scheme and Common Lisp. They're
dialects of Lisp.
Other example is Racket, that tries to sell itself as a superior
Lisp/Scheme, as TypeScript tries to sell itself as a superset of
JavaScript :)

To me, they're all Lisp. As Pharo IS Smalltalk. Smalltalk as a
moniker, not as a particular spec.

Regards!


Esteban A. Maringolo


2014-04-28 15:24 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com>:
> Hi,
>
> I do not claim that Pharo does not look like a Smalltalk now. It does as it
> shares quite a bit with the model. But, I do claim that it already has
> distinctive characteristics that make it go away from a "classic" Smalltalk.
> And there will be more and more in the future.
>
> So, what is better as a communication strategy:
> - to say that Pharo is "a Smalltalk with traits, modular compiler, slots and
> moldable debugger, ... (more to come in this list)", or
> - to say that Pharo "is a modern Smalltalk-inspired system?"
> ?
>
> We are not fooling anyone. We simply state that while we respect everything
> that Smalltalk stands for, Pharo will not be bound to it. This is not being
> disrespectful, it is simply creating the premise to look at how else we can
> invent the future. And there is so much to invent there.
>
> Doru
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Sebastian Sastre
> <sebast...@flowingconcept.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
>>
>> That is why we talk about Pharo as a cool, modern environment and language
>> that is Smalltalk-inspired.
>>
>> We do not need to apologize because Pharo was never dead :).
>>
>>
>> nice joke
>>
>> Talking of Smalltalk-inspired…. Ruby is that, and is very successful BTW
>>
>> So, yeah, we are aware that it would be incredibly lame to try to fool
>> ourselves and the world by trying to sell the idea that Pharo is not a
>> Smalltalk.
>>
>
>
>
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>
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