> On 03 Apr 2015, at 15:57, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-dev > <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > Date: 3 Apr 2015 15:53:56 CEST > From: Benoit St-Jean <bstj...@yahoo.com> > Reply-To: Benoit St-Jean <bstj...@yahoo.com> > To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions > > > Kilon, > > I can perfectly understand that "not everything has to be in the image" and > that, ultimately, someone has to maintain that code. The only problem I have > with the removal of that theme is that more than 55% of users are running > some flavor of Windows. It's not as if someone would ask for an OS/2 or a > Motif UI theme! There are *LOTS* of people on Windows still !
There is no such thing as *one* Windows look (or version), there are many: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows#Usage_share We simply cannot maintain them, nor do we want to. Note that we do not maintain any other platform specific look&feels. > ----------------- > Benoit St-Jean > Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean > Twitter: @BenLeChialeux > Pinterest: benoitstjean > IRC: lamneth > Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com > "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero". (A. Einstein) > > From: kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com> > To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 9:25 AM > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions > > > > > "The point is, every piece of code needs to be written and maintained which > takes time and energy from other activities." > > > I completely agree with you. I have zero issues of main pharo developers > kicking out libraries that are not so much used by pharo users. Those > libraries are perfectly capable of existing as third party. > > I also love the plan to make pharo modular, remove libraries from inside and > make it easy to install. This way each one of us can easily make an image > tailor made for his/her needs. Each pharo user is an individual with > individual needs. > > Installing libraries is dead easy with the Configuration Browser , including > their dependencies , just one click away. > > Of course that leaves whos going to maintain that stuff. I agree with Marcus > here, "you want it in pharo , code it".The theme support in Pharo is very > powerful , I know because I created my own custom blue theme and a tool to > allow easy customization of theme colors with zero coding (Nireas). I > expected that by now Nireas would be replaced by another way more powerful > theme manager but it has not. Why ? Not because my theme manager is very > good, but because the community is just too small. I love using my blue theme > and fits perfect to my taste and needs ;) > > In the end no code can be more personal than the code you create. > > There is no need for everything to exist inside the image , great things can > exist outside too. All it needs people who really care about pharo by coding > for it. > > > > >