> On 03 Apr 2015, at 15:57, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-dev 
> <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> wrote:
> 
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> Date: 3 Apr 2015 15:53:56 CEST
> From: Benoit St-Jean <bstj...@yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: Benoit St-Jean <bstj...@yahoo.com>
> To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org>
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions
> 
> 
> Kilon,
> 
> I can perfectly understand that "not everything has to be in the image" and 
> that, ultimately, someone has to maintain that code.  The only problem I have 
> with the removal of that theme is that more than 55% of users are running 
> some flavor of Windows.  It's not as if someone would ask for an OS/2 or a 
> Motif UI theme!  There are *LOTS* of people on Windows still !

There is no such thing as *one* Windows look (or version), there are many:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows#Usage_share

We simply cannot maintain them, nor do we want to.

Note that we do not maintain any other platform specific look&feels.

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> 
> From: kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com>
> To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> 
> Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 9:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "The point is, every piece of code needs to be written and maintained which 
> takes time and energy from other activities."
> 
> 
> I completely agree with you. I have zero issues of main pharo developers 
> kicking out libraries that are not so much used by pharo users. Those 
> libraries are perfectly capable of existing as third party. 
> 
> I also love the plan to make pharo modular, remove libraries from inside and 
> make it easy to install. This way each one of us can easily make an image 
> tailor made for his/her needs. Each pharo user is an individual with 
> individual needs. 
> 
> Installing libraries is dead easy with the Configuration Browser , including 
> their dependencies , just one click away. 
> 
> Of course that leaves whos going to maintain that stuff.  I agree with Marcus 
> here, "you want it in pharo , code it".The theme support in Pharo is very 
> powerful , I know because I created my own custom blue theme and a tool to 
> allow easy customization of theme colors with zero coding (Nireas). I 
> expected that by now Nireas would be replaced by another way more powerful 
> theme manager but it has not. Why ? Not because my theme manager is very 
> good, but because the community is just too small. I love using my blue theme 
> and fits perfect to my taste and needs ;) 
> 
> In the end no code can be more personal than the code you create.
> 
> There is no need for everything to exist inside the image , great things can 
> exist outside too. All it needs people who really care about pharo by coding 
> for it.
> 
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