Hi Stef,

There was a misunderstanding. Alex was just listing the need of underlying 
technologies for the features that Bloc already supports.

Let’s restart this conversation. He will send an explanatory email.

Cheers,
Doru

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 10:27 PM, stepharong <stephar...@free.fr> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Then we will need Cairo + SDL2 (that does not work for us) 
> 
> I do not get why SDL20 would not work for us while it is used by gaming 
> engines. Are we that special?
> We built interactive applications for Thales with complex event touch and now 
> suddenly "it does not work for us" TM.
> I have the impression that each time I see Bloc we need something more 
> special (now this is Gtk)
> To me it looks like it is a systematic "fuite en avant" with even more Mb 
> consumption each time. 
> 
> Personally I do not care of blur and effects, or color max filters. Right now 
> you do not even have a single example of something that is not a little 
> demo.
> 
> Why we cannot have a tk/tcl or red-language like working system? I mean 
> working now and not relying 
> on multiple MB of code extracted from an existing project?
> 
> + Freetype2 (for fonts) + Graphite (glyphs shaping technology in order to use 
> them within vector graphics engine) + cross platform OpenGL / Vulkan 
> context/device provider for hardware acceleration + implement Filters for 
> effects (blur, lights, color matrix filters, etc...).
> 
> Without all those technologies bloc WILL progress, from 80's to 00's. Still 
> decades behind :)
> 
> Well I would prefer to have something from the 00 working now that from 2016 
> not working. 
> 
> Because now what I will do is continuing to work on Morphic because this is 
> what I have. 
> You see I removed graphics from my future books. You probably do not care. 
> In the future I will concentrate on anything else than graphics and widgets 
> like that I will have no frustration.
> Hacking the compiler finally should be a lot nicer. 
> You see next week I go to visit alain and I will not discuss nor work on such 
> topics like that no frustration. 
> 
> Finally I will not comment anymore on Bloc anymore. I should not have. 
> You do not seem to understand my point so I will shut up but years will pass 
> before Bloc will be integrated in Pharo, because 
> integrated means maintained by us in case the guys behind bloc/brick get 
> hired by anybody else on earth. 
> 
> 
> You seem to underestimate that part.
> Ok you are super right and I'm super wrong. 
> 
> Stef

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