Isn't a couple days before release a bit late to change the default theme ? Aren't we in feature freeze mode ?
If for marketing it makes sense to switch to the dark theme, then let's switch to dark theme. But why not switching for Pharo 7 instead ? Instability is bad for marketing anyway, isn't it ? I don't mind for myself, I will always switch back with user settings to the light theme it's more about the general perception of Pharo stability. On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 11:31 AM, p...@highoctane.be <p...@highoctane.be> wrote: > Bah, I made GTSpotter dark theme work with SublimishTheme and got the > "yeah, for Pharo7". > > It is pissing me off but what can I say, just follow what is released. > > Compare Pharo 1 and Pharo 6. Worlds apart. I hope this continues. > > Phil > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < > hernan.mora...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I vote for a voting system for these kind of changes. I cannot say it >> more clearly, and I don't know why is asking for a voting system negative? >> >> We all have problems. In the meantime you will make all the changes you >> like to do, and I will continue working on my own way, until I find there >> is more voice for the "small minority". >> >> 2017-04-15 9:30 GMT-03:00 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com>: >> >>> Hi Hernan >>> >>> Why are you always so negative? Do you think that this is easy? >>> >>> Inria paid Denis to build a remote tool suite for ***research purpose*** >>> and we discovered that a new remote invocation framework was needed and >>> that they were far too many discussions between the model and the view. >>> Denis proposed to build a new browser (and it was not in our plans) and >>> we decided that we cannot do it otherwise. >>> We could keep this tool for us but we share it with the community. >>> >>> Do you want another example? >>> I asked christopher to build versionner and he discovered that he cannot >>> script well enough the model. And versionner was made >>> for everybody. Now with git we will have to revise it. >>> >>> Do you want another example? >>> Iceberg we payed nicolas passerini to analyse the situation and to build >>> a system that other people >>> can use it. >>> >>> Do you want another example? >>> Esteban got in his face the FFI problem: you see Spur arrives and FFI >>> nabive boost does not so what do we do? >>> He worked like a mad (and it was not planned because we thought that >>> igor would adpta NB to spur then to 64 bits). >>> And the FFI is for everbody. >>> >>> Do you want another example? >>> We spent one year with pavel, guillermo and christophe to make sure that >>> we can make sure that the three yars >>> effort of the phd of guillermo on bootstrap are not lost. >>> >>> Do you want more? >>> All my books are open-source? Do you know how much time I take to write >>> a book? >>> >>> I spent 8 months designing a mooc and do you know how much I earned >>> doing it: 3000 Euros ( so I will make the computation to know how much per >>> hour I lost) and the mooc is free. >>> >>> May be all these examples have no value for you. But for me they have. >>> >>> So you see you can piss on us if it makes you feeling better, and you >>> can rant in your corner. >>> But this is not the vision I have about a community because we are >>> sharing all the things that we are doing. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Hernán Morales Durand < >>> hernan.mora...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> 2017-04-14 8:44 GMT-03:00 Denis Kudriashov <dionisi...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2017-04-14 13:27 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> Also I am really wondering that this decision was not publicly >>>>>> discussed. We should vote for such kind of changes. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> no, this is not how it works. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> yes, it is how it could work :) >>>>> >>>>> Current approach is not bad for technical choices because it is >>>>> difficult to make everybody evolved in particular technical topic. >>>>> But look&feel is different. You just open Pharo and have impression is >>>>> it looks good or not. Voting can work here. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I would forget about it. I stopped waiting for votes long time ago in >>>> this community. Also I decided to stop contributing to external projects >>>> (including reporting bugs) because who knows which tool (browser, morphic, >>>> etc) the board would like to add/remove tomorrow. I will not invest my time >>>> fixing tools who knows what's the plan on them. >>>> >>>> The best you can do is to work in the dark and adapt your stuff with >>>> each new Pharo version. >>>> Of course anyone with enough time/money could fork a new more >>>> democratic Pharo ;) >>>> >>>> Hernán >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
