On 14 Nov 2013, at 11:02, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to draw your attention to something else: consistency. > > I remember the days when Cincom added Namespaces to classes and the class > definition template changed drastically. It took me quite a while to get used > to that. > And there is this other aspect in the consistency field: most Smalltalk > literature will include and address that line. If you learn Smalltalk, such > small differences can cause trouble. Is anything mentioning PoolDictionaries? I have no idea what it is.
The other thing is that we should go from text for class creation to nice ui, but it’s a long term goal. > > And what if I need PoolDictionaries? How hard will it be to find the place to > add my reference to them? > A fair amount of Pharo code may not make much use of PoolDictionaries, but > other dialects do. I know Pharo has the concept of "never look back" and it > is good to be prepared to cut off old strings. But there is a price to it. > > Seaside, apart from being a great web framework, has achieved something that > was excellent and helped the whole Smalltalk universe make a leap forward: > all Smalltalk dialects moved closer together and honestly worked on being > more compatible. Suggestions like this may not break much of this per se, but > many such cracks make a wide canyon. I find the argument that a certain line > of code may irritate students a bit weak. It may make their life harder once > they read code from other dialects. Should we remove class browsers because > students are used to use text editors? > > Just my 2 cents > > Joachim > > Am 14.11.13 10:49, schrieb Martin Dias: >> +10 >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Stéphane Ducasse >> <stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote: >>> +1 >>> >>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Johan Fabry <jfa...@dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I am preparing slides for a course. I came to the typical: >>>> >>>> Number subclass: #Complex >>>> instanceVariableNames: 'real imaginary' >>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>> poolDictionaries: '' >>>> category: 'ComplexNumbers' >>>> >>>> Which made me think: Who uses poolDictionaries? I suspect extremely few of >>>> us. >>>> >>>> Why not add this to Class: >>>> Class>>subclass: aSymbol instanceVariableNames: instVarNames >>>> classVariableNames: classVarNames category: aSymbol >>>> ^self subclass: aSymbol >>>> instanceVariableNames: instVarNames >>>> classVariableNames: classVarNames >>>> poolDictionaries: '' >>>> category: aSymbol >>>> >>>> And have the new class template as follows? >>>> >>>> Object subclass: #NameOfSubclass >>>> instanceVariableNames: '' >>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>> category: 'Kernel-Classes' >>>> >>>> It would be a bit cleaner. I know us old timers don't even see the >>>> poolDictionaries: line anymore, but I dislike having to explain it to >>>> students. >>>> >>>> Greetings, >>>> >>>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>>> >>>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>>> PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuc...@objektfabrik.de > Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de > D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com > Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 > >
