Yuri,
Okay, so why not go one step further and kill PoolDictionaries?
I mean, if no one uses them and you'd like to hide them from the users,
they obviously are unnecessary. That would be a real cleanup, right?
PoolDictionaries are potentially dangerous, because you can put things
there that make Images harder to reproduce if you don't put the code to
fill the Dictionaries into some script that will be run in the right
situations (places like #loaded in envy).
Joachim
Am 14.11.13 11:05, schrieb Yuriy Tymchuk:
On 14 Nov 2013, at 11:02, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to draw your attention to something else: consistency.
I remember the days when Cincom added Namespaces to classes and the class
definition template changed drastically. It took me quite a while to get used
to that.
And there is this other aspect in the consistency field: most Smalltalk
literature will include and address that line. If you learn Smalltalk, such
small differences can cause trouble.
Is anything mentioning PoolDictionaries? I have no idea what it is.
The other thing is that we should go from text for class creation to nice ui,
but it’s a long term goal.
And what if I need PoolDictionaries? How hard will it be to find the place to
add my reference to them?
A fair amount of Pharo code may not make much use of PoolDictionaries, but other dialects
do. I know Pharo has the concept of "never look back" and it is good to be
prepared to cut off old strings. But there is a price to it.
Seaside, apart from being a great web framework, has achieved something that
was excellent and helped the whole Smalltalk universe make a leap forward: all
Smalltalk dialects moved closer together and honestly worked on being more
compatible. Suggestions like this may not break much of this per se, but many
such cracks make a wide canyon. I find the argument that a certain line of code
may irritate students a bit weak. It may make their life harder once they read
code from other dialects. Should we remove class browsers because students are
used to use text editors?
Just my 2 cents
Joachim
Am 14.11.13 10:49, schrieb Martin Dias:
+10
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
<stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote:
+1
On Nov 12, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Johan Fabry <jfa...@dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:
Hi all,
I am preparing slides for a course. I came to the typical:
Number subclass: #Complex
instanceVariableNames: 'real imaginary'
classVariableNames: ''
poolDictionaries: ''
category: 'ComplexNumbers'
Which made me think: Who uses poolDictionaries? I suspect extremely few of us.
Why not add this to Class:
Class>>subclass: aSymbol instanceVariableNames: instVarNames
classVariableNames: classVarNames category: aSymbol
^self subclass: aSymbol
instanceVariableNames: instVarNames
classVariableNames: classVarNames
poolDictionaries: ''
category: aSymbol
And have the new class template as follows?
Object subclass: #NameOfSubclass
instanceVariableNames: ''
classVariableNames: ''
category: 'Kernel-Classes'
It would be a bit cleaner. I know us old timers don't even see the
poolDictionaries: line anymore, but I dislike having to explain it to students.
Greetings,
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