On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <s...@clipperadams.com>
wrote:

> kilon.alios wrote
> > I do agree, that nomads do not build cathedrals but there is the flip
> side
> > of the coin, why one would want to be a nomad and the great benefits
> > coming
> > with being a nomad
> >
> > Guido the creator of python explains it from the side of the Python
> > Standard library but I think it applies fine for Pharo too
>
> Cathedral to me means architecture i.e. the application of forethought and
> understanding to make the most beautiful, functional structure in the most
> efficient way VS. nomads slapping together temporary mud huts that can be
> abandoned and easily rebuilt elsewhere in better conditions. This is
> orthogonal to the also-important issue that rigidity often accompanies a
> large user-base.
>
> One could have a beautiful cathedral that is frequented only by the
> faithful, and not turned into a tourist attraction like Notre Dame or Il
> Duomo di Firenze. Steph often says that if we were looking to be famous,
> we'd be programming in Ruby ;) Conversely, one could have a mud hut that
> becomes a historic landmark or revered for it's earthly charm, and can
> never
> be improved.
>
> And as for popularity = rigidity, that's certainly true for languages taken
> up by pop culture. That is because of one of Alan Kay's frequent
> observations - that nearly everyone is driven by utility, with only a tiny
> minority concerned inherently with ideas. Once people are programming a
> language because that's the language "you're supposed to use" - like C++ or
> Ruby - the utilitarianists flock in, and, because they are concerned only
> with its usefulness, they will not tolerate much disturbance due to
> "beauty", "design", or other intangibles.
>
> But, who says we have to go there? I for one am not interested in that
> game.
> One estimate says there are 18.5 million software developers in the world
> [1]. I don't remember the exact percentage of inherent-idea people, but
> let's be extremely conservative and say 5% (I think it was much higher).
> That gives us 0.05 x 18.5M = 925,000 potential Pharo users that would revel
> in the idea of an infinite game pursuing a beautiful, simple liberator of
> human expression; and therefore willing to tolerate and adapt themselves to
> the inevitable change, just like we all do now.
>
> Now, here's the important thing to remember... As we get more popular, the
> above plan will leave over 17,500,000 potential complainers to potentially
> distract and discourage us!
>
> These are the challenges of those who dare to venture into the Blue Plane,
> but isn't it a beautiful game?!
>

Care to make that into an article for the world to see? It is worth every
word.

It actually fits with this pretty nicely:
http://www.jamesaltucher.com/2015/02/the-ultimate-guide-to-making-a-personal-manifesto/

Not that we need a manifesto... Do we?

/Phil, happy to be in the 5%



>
> [1]
>
> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/european-technology/there-are-185-million-software-developers-in-the-world-but-which-country-has-the-most/
>
>
>
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> Sean
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