Let me try to be clearer....

Your observation may be right for some Applications, where there is some heavy 
lifting in computation and logic. So it is unfair to say you are wrong. There 
are, however, many areas where its all about searching some data, modifying and 
saving it. Think crm, erp, accounting, most web apps, and whatnot.

These are the ones I had in mind. And in these, gui is the most important area, 
and the one that eats lots of time and effort.

Joachim

Am 12.02.2015 10:03 schrieb Joachim Tuchel <jtuc...@objektfabrik.de>:
>
> Hilaire.
>
> I completely disagree. The 2 areas you spend most of your time (and often 
> waste it ) in my experience with business applications are
>
> a) The gui
> b) persistency
>
> The tool support for both is pretty poor and both areas have been reinvented 
> over and over again. Most of the reinventions were extremely poor in 
> supporting the developer in getting things done, not to mention maintenance. 
> Sick, isnt it?
>
> I can only underline what Sebastian said: if building a ui is hard, a system 
> is probably not worth wasting time learning it.
>
> Just my 2 cents,
>
> Joachim
>
> Am 12.02.2015 09:46 schrieb Hilaire <hila...@drgeo.eu>:
> >
> > Le 11/02/2015 23:28, Sebastian Heidbrink a écrit : 
> > > I honestly try to bring Pharo/Smalltalk to the crowd, but somhow I 
> > > feel like the UI development removes all the productivity that one 
> > > usually has with Smalltalk. 
> >
> > You are pretty right. For a small UI project, the UI development can be 
> > high. 
> > For a bigger project, where the UI part represent a small fraction of 
> > the whole project, it is a different story as most of the development 
> > will be out of the UI land and will benefit from the Pharo productivity. 
> > This is what I experienced with DrGeo. 
> >
> > By the way, before Polymorph, the situation was even worst. 
> > Did you look at the Polymorph example in the WidgetExamples class ? 
> > There are good starter. 
> >
> > Hilaire 
> >
> > -- 
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> >
> >
> >
> >

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