there is no Pharo wiki too, but we have plenty of books and documentation that can be found here
https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 11:12 AM John Pfersich <jpfers...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jan 2, 2016, at 23:57, Saša Janiška <g...@atmarama.com> wrote: > > > >> On Sub, 2016-01-02 at 23:27 +0000, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > >> > >> there is an an SQlite wrapper for pharo > > > > I know about it. > > > > However it would be nice to have some categorized catalog of the > > packages available for Pharo? > > > > +1 > I find that I just browse the Configuration Browser to see what's out > there and then google the name to see if I can find any documentation. > > And it would be nice to have a wiki like Squeak's. > > >> the screenshot you shared as Tudor said can be accomplished via > >> Roassal and Morphic. > > > > Now, I'm really a bit puzzled about Roassal' capabilities. :-) > > > >> Personally I find the whole performance question kinda irrelevant > >> because if you really want to squeeze the most performance code those > >> parts in C and call them from Pharo via its FFI. Not even Julia will > >> able to outperform that since itself relies on C code for performance > >> and its quite restrictive how you use its dynamic types to achieve > >> high performance. > > > > Well, the point is that e.g. I know people who tried to do similar apps > > in Python and it was too slow, they abandoned it and went to C++. > > > > That's the reason why I was primarily exploring statically-compiled > > languages. Julia *might* be interesting since it is higher-level > > language with fantastic, close to C performance when one helps compiler > > by annotating data types. > > > > In short, I want to avoid fiddling with low-level languages, otherwise > > it would be simple to just use C/GTK or C++/Qt. (Java could probably > > also do the job, but I simply do not like it.) > > > > For the most critical part of the application, I anyway plan to use 3rd > > party C lib which does calculate planetary ephemeris, but for the custom > > libs using it, I want to use higher-level and type-safer language. > > > >> In any case there are always 3 rules, profile, profile and profile. > >> When it comes to performance assume nothing. In the vast majority of > >> cases Pharo JIT VM should be more than enough. > > > > Let me see... > > > >> And if all you want to do is a business app I dont even know why you > >> worry about performance. Business apps they are very low demand on > >> performance. > > > > When I say 'business' app, it is most in the sense of typical 'desktop > > outlook', while the app itself is falling more into 'science' app, but > > it depends how one sees astronomy/astrology. :-) > > > >> Pharo libraries dont get irrelevant because the language is so simple > >> it barely changes and the changes usually dont brake compatibility. > > > > Pharo's simplicity of the language is huge 'pro'. ;) > > > >> Pharo can do REPL via the playground, the whole deal is that is a lot > >> more than that. > > > > Right, it's just that Julia provides more 'traditional' dev work-flow, > > while with Pharo one has to unwrap one's head a bit. :-) > > > >> GUI wise you can do some pretty awesome stuff with morphic. > > > > That I still have to learn... > > > > > > Sincerely, > > Gour > > > > -- > > A person is said to be elevated in yoga when, having renounced > > all material desires, he neither acts for sense gratification > > nor engages in fruitive activities. > > > > > > > > > > > >
