On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 11:20, Denice wrote: > I don't 'pretend' things Jef. I say things that I mean. Please don't > demean and belittle my understanding.
I'm not. I'm pretty sure I'm demeaning and belittling your misunderstandings (and at the same time mine). But I love the little "I say what I mean" comment, its a nice touch when added with comment below about having assume you misspoke when you said "we"...very paradoxical...very contradictory. Which is is? Do you say what you mean...or do damn phrases that you don't mean slip out on you? If you can't prevent such simple mis-speaking such as "we" when you mean just yourself, why should I assume that you mean what you say for more more complicated ideas. Careful, you are treading close to hypocrisy, but the subtle ironic humor and the self-inflicted wound you gave yerself in this post makes up for it. you say, you say what you mean, and yet i have to do "s/we /some of us/g" to your posts to make them sound reasonable. What other parsing rules should I apply as well? > There is no royal 'we' in the linux world. Yes, sometimes the damn > phrase slips out anyway. So remember: > > s/we /some of us /g > <snip/> > > directly. This mailinglist is the wind....you can shout into it all you > > want, it might even make you feel better...but you have no idea if > > someone is hearing you or not. > > Well, neither do you actually. So You believe what you want to, and I'll > believe what I want to.. I don't need to have an idea, I'm not expecting to be heard. I don't a beef with red hat's business policies. I'm not potentially wasting my time, complaining about issues I care about in a place that might or might not provide me with clarification and a resolution. If I had a real issue with Red Hat's business policies, I would talk to a Red Hat rep directly...actually I'd probably talk to several Red Hat reps directly. Blathering on a public mailing list is not proactive action...its apathy. If I have a problem or concern, I make damn sure I use my time and the resources available to me effectively to solve that problem as quickly as I can. Posting to this mailing list looking for business policy clarifications is not a solution to the problem. If you really have a concern about Red Hat's business policies you will take proactive action and talk to Red hat reps directly. How many people have to tell you that before it starts sounding like a good idea? Or maybe I should ask now that mharris has graced you with an answer in civil tone that you fine more palpable, how many people with redhat email addresses need to tell you that before you believe it? You aren't going to get official clarification here...you are going to get personal opinion at various levels of informitude. Yer public grandstanding on the concerns you have might win you some praise and some pats on the back from other civilians on the list who share yer concerns...but its not going to get you anywhere in actually addressing the issues you have with Red Hat's policies. Real concerns that you have need to be addressed directly with Red Hat sales. Each every Red Hat customer here on this list, who is actually concerned about the business policy changes, needs to contact Red Hat directly, if they expect to be heard in a way that matters. -jef"now my wife is telling to stop posting to the list, maybe its time to put the flamethrower down till the next beta"spaleta -- Phoebe-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/phoebe-list
