In both negative experiences I've read so far, the injured parties did 
indeed get their money back.  Try that with a check that's been cashed, or 
worse, a money order!  For me, 85% of my luck with PayPal has probably been 
cautious buying from good sellers.  Common sense and a little research 
through a seller's feedback has kept me from having to use SquareTrade or 
any other PayPal/eBay recourse.

I don't doubt I've been lucky, and we all agree it's not a perfect system 
for everyone.  I only know I've had zero complaints, and as far as I know, 
no one I know personally has had any either.  And I know I'd buy maybe 
1/100th of the amount of stuff I buy on eBay now, and doubt I would ever 
have sold any of the stuff I've sold there, if not for PayPal.  I rely on it 
completely, and hope it's around for a long time!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rich" <rich-m...@octoxol.com>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Whaddya think it will Pay Pal?


>I consider these "eBay, PayPal, common carrier, or whoever boned me" 
>stories to be little more than one
> sided urban legends and of little merit.  Now if I am provided with all of 
> the correspondence from ALL
> sides I will consider it.  This is no more or less than an other 
> adaptation of the old "he said, she said".
> These stories belong on the Art Bell program.....
>
>
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:57:25 -0500, Ken Danckaert wrote:
>
>>Don't rely too much on PayPal.  I know of one instance where PayPal did
>>pay after a lot of work by the injured party, BUT Pay Pal terminated
>>both the buyer and the seller until they got money back from someone.
>>They didn't care about the injured party not being responsible for the
>>problem of destruction during shipping due to poor packing.   Somehow
>>this sounds like ebay!  Does anyone have other experience with trying to
>>get payment out of PayPal?
>
>>Ken D.
>
>> Rich wrote:
>
>>>What you have to remember is that better than 90% of the PayPal users 
>>>never even read the user
>>>agreement and the rules.  And, even worse of the 10% or so who do read 
>>>them probably 50% do not
>>>understand them.  PayPal provides excellent buyer insurance when using 
>>>PayPal through eBay and is
>>>very convenient for the seller.  There is no real reason to get bitten by 
>>>a SPAM eBay or PayPal email.
>>>If it sounds too good to be true, its a scam.  Turn down the greed, learn 
>>>how the computer functions,
>>>and you will be OK.
>>>
>>>Rich
>>>
>>>
>>
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