There is a contract between the shipper (seller) and the carrier.  You, the 
receiver (buyer0 have no 
legal standing in a damage claim as far as the carrier is concerned.  So, if 
the B***H*** seller chooses 
to not negotiate with the carrier for the damage claim then you, the buyer need 
to send for the lawyer 
or blow it off.  It is not the $$ transfer agents responsibility.  And, for the 
general information, the 
ability to just back charge the credit card did not exist until the federal 
fair credit laws.  And we all 
pay for that with the 3% or so hidden in the price or a part of the fun or 
receiving payments through 
PayPal.

On another note,  Just who was the seller of this trashed Columbia AS?  Some 
bargain basement 
estate auction picker with eBay feedback in the thousands?  Look at how fast 
the seller is 
accumulating feedback.  It takes time to properly package something.  And, most 
carriers will not 
cover real value loss on an antique.  In simple terms, if you can not buy a new 
or recent production 
"like for like" you might have a problem.

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:39:32 -0600, Robert Wright wrote:

>I fail to see where the destruction of the AS due to substandard packing has 
>been disputed.  I also fail to see what that has to do with PayPal. 
>Insurance claims should've been made with the shipper, no?  It's not 
>PayPal's responsibility to fix damage done in shipping.  If the item had 
>never been shipped, that'd be one thing, but I'm assuming it was fine when 
>it was purchased, past which point PayPal could rightfully wash their hands 
>of it.

>That's why I get all over a seller to find out what they know about packing 
>such items before their incompetency has a chance to come into play.



>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Rich" <rich-m...@octoxol.com>
>To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Whaddya think it will Pay Pal?





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