I can send it to you later if you'd like to see it. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message----- From: John Maeder <appywan...@hotmail.com> Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 10:05:05 To: <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring Sorry John. All I have is my phone right now and can't see the pics for some reason. > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 06:42:09 -0800 > From: john9...@pacbell.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > If you look at the pictures at the link I posted yesterday, you can see there > was no way a spring could have been inserted between the suspension and the > capture nut. The capture nut is molded as part of the suspension bolt. > John Robles > > --- On Tue, 11/9/10, John Maeder <appywan...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > From: John Maeder <appywan...@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 6:11 AM > > Is it certain that there was never a compression spring fitted over the > threaded post between the crane and capture nut that would have allowed the > weight of the horn to float upon the reproducer and carriage? It would seem > that a springless support would be a rather obvious design flaw to such a > compulsive over-engineer as Edison. A loose spring could easily be lost and > thus not evident in surviving examples. Are there any original parts sheets > for this type of horn support? > > > From: steve_nor...@msn.com > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 08:47:35 -0500 > > Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > > From: gbogan...@charter.net > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:30:29 -0500 > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > I have an early 10 panel cygnet horn and springless crane on an > > > Edison > > > Fireside. As you surmise, the system doesn't work very well as the force > > > placed on the carriage by the horn varies with the position of the > > > carriage. > > > It happens to work on my particular example because the rubber coupling > > > from > > > my reproducer to the horn is old and somewhat loose. This allows the > > > rubber > > > coupler to move vertically a bit as the carriage moves which results in a > > > more uniform carriage pressure. But this original setup was not > > > satisfactory, I'm sure, and that's why the later versions use the spring > > > to > > > suspend the horn from the crane. > > > > > > Greg Bogantz > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Steven Medved" <steve_nor...@msn.com> > > > To: "phonolist" <phonol...@yahoogroups.com>; "Phono-l" > > > <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > > > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:08 PM > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these > > > > work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look > > > > like > > > > a workable system to me. > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org