Is it really so bad the rivets must come out? Even if the metal is split
I'll bet you could close it up. This sounds like one of those jobs you wish
you left alone. Rivet drilling can go wrong in a heartbeat. If you can drill
the outside head with a matching bit ( a little smaller that the rivet head)
but do not drill thru'. Be very careful.

Just thin the rivet. Next with a smaller bit drill thru' the center but not
through the rivet. Take a punch and gently tap it out. The rivet head should
break apart at the shank when you tap it. If not thin the head out more so.
Small brass rivets will be your best bet. I'd use nuts and bolts over pop
rivets.You might give thought if you use brass rivets to drill the shank
with a small bit. That way when you set them the rivet should give with less
force.

If you use nuts and bolts use brass. File the nuts down very thin and even
file them round. Cut the screws just long enough so when you bolt it
together the screw should not extend past the thin nut. Using brass you can
fill the slotted head in with solder. Either use rub n buff or just black
model paint. It is un-doable if need be and will look better than you think.
Mike Stitt

Good luck.
Mike Stitt

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Ron L'Herault <lhera...@bu.edu> wrote:

> It was probably a riveting tool with a long reach.  You could pop rivet
> them
> but that would not look quite right from the inside.  Anyone else know more
> about riveting?
>
> Ron L
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Vinyl Visions
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:58 PM
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn "Ball Holder"
>
>
> I've been afraid to remove the rivets, since I don't know what method they
> used originally to put the rivets in without distorting the horn... any
> ideas?
>
> > From: lhera...@bu.edu
> > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:00:17 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn "Ball Holder"
> >
> > Have you tried drilling out the rivets and taking the part to a musical
> > Instrument repair shop? They may be able to straighten it out. Then you
> > can rivet it back on.
> >
> > Ron L
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of Vinyl Visions
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:30 AM
> > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> > Subject: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn "Ball Holder"
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't know what you call it exactly, but does anyone sell replacements
> > for the brass ball holder that is riveted to a cygnet horn? If so, how do
> > you go about replacing it? Mine was torn up by someone trying to replace
> the
> > ball.
> >
> > Curt
> >
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