Has anyone ever used the black (ebony) Rub n' Buff on Columbia reproduction aluminum parts? I have used black stove polish after soaking the parts with Drano (sodium hydroxide). The Rub n' Buff sounds a lot less labor intensive.
> From: vinyl.visi...@live.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:50:09 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn "Ball Holder" > > > Hi Andy and all, > >From what you can see on the video, Rub n Buff or similar rub on metallic > >waxes are great for restorations. I have used it to touch up or redo the > >stripes on Edison horns. It subtlely restores the original look. A friend > >and I recently used it on the gold tonearm of his Victrola 18, which had > >some obvious wear on the elbow near the reproducer. After we finished, you > >couldn't tell it was done. Note: Rub n Buff or other metallic waxes look > >good, but are not permanent without using a fixative. I use Krylon Matte > >finish art fixative to topcoat it after I'm through. It is transparent and > >does not show up after it is applied, but makes the metallic finish > >permanent. You should experiment first, before using it on an important > >piece. Another use for the fixative is this: if you have a black horn, which > >is scratched, etc. it detracts from the look and I hate to repaint, because > >you cannot reproduce the japanned finish. I touch up the scratches with a > >Sharpie marker, then blend the t > ouchups in with WD40 - I know, everyone hates WD40, but WD40 sprayed on the > black paint restores the original look and blends in the touchups from the > Sharpie. I then wipe off the WD40 with a soft cloth and spray the horn with > fixative. If you have a horn that is in need of repainting, you might try > this procedure, as it has worked well for me. I have restored a Victor R > horn, a Cygnet horn that was really scratched bad and an Edison black > flowered horn that now looks pristine. Just an idea... take it for what it's > worth. > Curt > > > > From: a...@popyrus.com > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:35:15 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn "Ball Holder" > > > > I've been following this thread with interest. Nice description > > here. Brass hardware that you mentioned (2-56 thread might be > > appropriate for this), and solder are all relatively soft materials > > and would give that nice balance between getting as close as you can > > to a factory look, and yet be sturdy enough to know it will safely > > support the weight. > > > > What's the "rub n buff" that you mentioned? > > > > Andy Baron > > > > On Nov 10, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Mike Stitt wrote: > > > > > Is it really so bad the rivets must come out? Even if the metal is > > > split > > > I'll bet you could close it up. This sounds like one of those jobs > > > you wish > > > you left alone. Rivet drilling can go wrong in a heartbeat. If you > > > can drill > > > the outside head with a matching bit ( a little smaller that the > > > rivet head) > > > but do not drill thru'. Be very careful. > > > > > > Just thin the rivet. Next with a smaller bit drill thru' the center > > > but not > > > through the rivet. Take a punch and gently tap it out. The rivet > > > head should > > > break apart at the shank when you tap it. If not thin the head out > > > more so. > > > Small brass rivets will be your best bet. I'd use nuts and bolts > > > over pop > > > rivets.You might give thought if you use brass rivets to drill the > > > shank > > > with a small bit. That way when you set them the rivet should give > > > with less > > > force. > > > > > > If you use nuts and bolts use brass. File the nuts down very thin > > > and even > > > file them round. Cut the screws just long enough so when you bolt it > > > together the screw should not extend past the thin nut. Using brass > > > you can > > > fill the slotted head in with solder. Either use rub n buff or just > > > black > > > model paint. It is un-doable if need be and will look better than > > > you think. > > > Mike Stitt > > > > > > Good luck. > > > Mike Stitt > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Ron L'Herault <lhera...@bu.edu> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> It was probably a riveting tool with a long reach. You could pop > > >> rivet > > >> them > > >> but that would not look quite right from the inside. Anyone else > > >> know more > > >> about riveting? > > >> > > >> Ron L > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > > >> ] > > >> On > > >> Behalf Of Vinyl Visions > > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:58 PM > > >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn "Ball Holder" > > >> > > >> > > >> I've been afraid to remove the rivets, since I don't know what > > >> method they > > >> used originally to put the rivets in without distorting the horn... > > >> any > > >> ideas? > > >> > > >>> From: lhera...@bu.edu > > >>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > >>> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:00:17 -0500 > > >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn "Ball Holder" > > >>> > > >>> Have you tried drilling out the rivets and taking the part to a > > >>> musical > > >>> Instrument repair shop? They may be able to straighten it out. > > >>> Then you > > >>> can rivet it back on. > > >>> > > >>> Ron L > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > > >>> ] > > >> On > > >>> Behalf Of Vinyl Visions > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:30 AM > > >>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > >>> Subject: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn "Ball Holder" > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> I don't know what you call it exactly, but does anyone sell > > >>> replacements > > >>> for the brass ball holder that is riveted to a cygnet horn? If so, > > >>> how do > > >>> you go about replacing it? Mine was torn up by someone trying to > > >>> replace > > >> the > > >>> ball. > > >>> > > >>> Curt > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Phono-L mailing list > > >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Phono-L mailing list > > >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Phono-L mailing list > > >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Phono-L mailing list > > >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
