So true about the rarity factor on ebay. Yesterday someone had a Victrola 50 on there listed as very old and rare, and it was priced at $1,700.00. Never mind that there are three others on ebay right now priced at around $350.00... John
--- On Sat, 4/9/11, Rich <rich-m...@octoxol.com> wrote: From: Rich <rich-m...@octoxol.com> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real? To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 7:28 PM He is also correct, it is original paint. It is not a copy of paint, it is original paint right out of a can and/or tube, and it is old. Now how old is not defined. To some 10 years is old to others one thousand is young. He is not claiming that this decoration was applied contemporaneously by Edison, he is just leaving the gullible to make that assumption. As the clear coat finish is cracked it was not done last week though. Everything on eBay is "RARE L@@K!" On 04/09/2011 07:44 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: > > Mike, the reason that the seller "knows" that is obvious in his statement: > > > Like most eBay items it starts with a statement of authenticity: > "Extremely rare! > Body and case are wood, painted black, with gold trim on base and rose > flowers and daisy on case. > I have been collecting antiques for over forty years from coast to coast. > This is the only one I have ever seen." > > > So this is how he "knows" the paint is original: > "HE has NEVER seen one." :) > > > Neither has anyone else, so maybe there is a reason for that... it is a > one-off previous owner painted machine. > It could have been painted by the original owner, shortly after it left the > factory and the paint would be > "period authentic" - 100 + yrs. old. The thing that looked non-factory, is > that the flower design on the horn > and the flower design on the case, were similar but not the same > design/style. The horn had the same gold > scroll work added as on the base - not a difficult task for an artist. > > >> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:55:15 -0700 >> From: smst...@gmail.com >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real? >> >> Ward an interesting comment. How would the seller know that? >> >> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Ward Sandstrom<w...@bis.midco.net> wrote: >> >>> I contacted the seller days ago and he said that as far as he knows the >>> paint was applied at the factory. He didn't put my question and his answer >>> back in his auction. Ward S. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich"<rich-m...@octoxol.com> >>> To: "Antique Phonograph List"<phono-l@oldcrank.org> >>> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 12:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real? >>> >>> >>> >>> Some of these enhancements were done in the early 50s, and during the >>>> depression to improve mail order saleability of used phonos. To tell what >>>> you are looking at you would have to be doing paint analysis to date it. >>>> Does not realy look Factory though. >>>> >>>> On 04/09/2011 11:23 AM, Steve Andersen wrote: >>>> >>>>> I believe it was not done at the factory. Usually the factory would put >>>>> special guilt on the casting, not the case. Either a jobber or an artistic >>>>> owner did this. >>>>> >>>>> Steve >>>>> On Apr 9, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Vinyl Visions wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I found an auction for an Edison GEM, with rose flowered horn and >>>>>> decorated case which matches and appears to be old... >>>>>> >>>>>> Question: did Edison ever produce a machine with a flowered case to >>>>>> match the horn - seller claims it to be VERY rare? >>>>>> eBay Item number: 230604577714 >>>>>> >>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Edison-Gem-Phonograph-Rose-Flower-Horn-Case-Very-Rare_W0QQitemZ230604577714QQcategoryZ38029QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m1374QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DPI%26its%3DC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8335346353050994345 >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
