My response as to how does he know it's factory was tongue in cheek. When I hear stuff like that or only 3 know to exist I always ask or think who told you that. I remember hearing only three of these phongraphs exist. I smiled and thought well I have one, that makes 4. I didn't say it tho' Mike Oldcranky
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 7:50 PM, john robles <john9...@pacbell.net> wrote: > So true about the rarity factor on ebay. Yesterday someone had a Victrola > 50 on there listed as very old and rare, and it was priced at $1,700.00. > Never mind that there are three others on ebay right now priced at around > $350.00... > John > > --- On Sat, 4/9/11, Rich <rich-m...@octoxol.com> wrote: > > From: Rich <rich-m...@octoxol.com> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real? > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 7:28 PM > > He is also correct, it is original paint. It is not a copy of paint, it > is original paint right out of a can and/or tube, and it is old. Now how > old is not defined. To some 10 years is old to others one thousand is > young. He is not claiming that this decoration was applied > contemporaneously by Edison, he is just leaving the gullible to make > that assumption. As the clear coat finish is cracked it was not done > last week though. > > Everything on eBay is "RARE L@@K!" > > On 04/09/2011 07:44 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: > > > > Mike, the reason that the seller "knows" that is obvious in his > statement: > > > > > > Like most eBay items it starts with a statement of authenticity: > > "Extremely rare! > > Body and case are wood, painted black, with gold trim on base and rose > flowers and daisy on case. > > I have been collecting antiques for over forty years from coast to coast. > > This is the only one I have ever seen." > > > > > > So this is how he "knows" the paint is original: > > "HE has NEVER seen one." :) > > > > > > Neither has anyone else, so maybe there is a reason for that... it is a > one-off previous owner painted machine. > > It could have been painted by the original owner, shortly after it left > the factory and the paint would be > > "period authentic" - 100 + yrs. old. The thing that looked non-factory, > is that the flower design on the horn > > and the flower design on the case, were similar but not the same > design/style. The horn had the same gold > > scroll work added as on the base - not a difficult task for an artist. > > > > > >> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:55:15 -0700 > >> From: smst...@gmail.com > >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real? > >> > >> Ward an interesting comment. How would the seller know that? > >> > >> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Ward Sandstrom<w...@bis.midco.net> > wrote: > >> > >>> I contacted the seller days ago and he said that as far as he knows the > >>> paint was applied at the factory. He didn't put my question and his > answer > >>> back in his auction. Ward S. > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich"<rich-m...@octoxol.com> > >>> To: "Antique Phonograph List"<phono-l@oldcrank.org> > >>> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 12:09 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Some of these enhancements were done in the early 50s, and during the > >>>> depression to improve mail order saleability of used phonos. To tell > what > >>>> you are looking at you would have to be doing paint analysis to date > it. > >>>> Does not realy look Factory though. > >>>> > >>>> On 04/09/2011 11:23 AM, Steve Andersen wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I believe it was not done at the factory. Usually the factory would > put > >>>>> special guilt on the casting, not the case. Either a jobber or an > artistic > >>>>> owner did this. > >>>>> > >>>>> Steve > >>>>> On Apr 9, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Vinyl Visions wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I found an auction for an Edison GEM, with rose flowered horn and > >>>>>> decorated case which matches and appears to be old... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Question: did Edison ever produce a machine with a flowered case to > >>>>>> match the horn - seller claims it to be VERY rare? > >>>>>> eBay Item number: 230604577714 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > http://cgi.ebay.com/Edison-Gem-Phonograph-Rose-Flower-Horn-Case-Very-Rare_W0QQitemZ230604577714QQcategoryZ38029QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m1374QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DPI%26its%3DC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8335346353050994345 > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Phono-L mailing list > >>>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Phono-L mailing list > >>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Phono-L mailing list > >>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Phono-L mailing list > >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Phono-L mailing list > >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
