Oh PHP itself isn't to blame at all, and I never intended to infer that.  If
you point the W3C validator at www.foxjet.com you will get a clean rating
and that page is generated via PHP.  Someone mentioned that they got errors
in Netscape and I was just pointing out that for some reason the people who
built www.php.net didn't make the page W3C compliant.

Sheridan Saint-Michel
Website Administrator
FoxJet, an ITW Company
www.foxjet.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nally, Tyler G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:36 AM
Subject: RE: [PHP-DB] Why use MySQL with PHP


> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... it's not PHP functionality that makes
> html ugly as shown at validator.w3.org.  It's the person's
> html/php coding ability to avoid coding mistakes.
> 
> Basically, PHP gives functionality.  A part of that functionality
> is for the php programmer to make correct HTML as output so
> the browser will render a page as output correctly.  If the
> php programmer is a real bonehead and he/she can't instruct
> php to return good HTML that doesn't make a HTML validator 
> from coughing up errors, it's not PHP's fault, it's the coders.
> 
> I've been programming PHP for quite a while now and I can't
> think of a single regular thing in PHP that'd cause any 
> browser (Netscape or IE) to hang.  Any time that I've had
> problems, it's because I didn't know the limits of what I
> was coding to try and do something that is outside the 
> possibilities.
> 
> Whether it's storing information in a database, retrieving
> information from a database, sending PHP headers to redirect
> to another page or sending PHP headers to set a cookie, etc.
> You have to know when you can do things in PHP and when you
> can't.  If web pages hang in a browser, it's the buggy PHP 
> code that is interpreted that's causing the problems.  Not 
> PHP itself.
> 
> It's like putting gasoline w/ water in a gas tank.  It's not
> the engine's fault it's spitting and sputtering.  It's the
> fuel supply.
> 
> Tyler Nally
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> American Legion Website
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sheridan Saint-Michel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:02 PM
> > To: B. van Ouwerkerk; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] Why use MySQL with PHP
> > 
> > 
> > Tell me about it.  You ever try running php.net through
> > http://validator.w3.org ?
> > 
> > It's not pretty.
> > 
> > Sheridan Saint-Michel
> > Website Administrator
> > FoxJet, an ITW Company
> > www.foxjet.com
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "B. van Ouwerkerk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] Why use MySQL with PHP
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > >I just remembered, the only bad thing I can think of about MySQL...
> > their
> > > >website locks up Netscape =)
> > >
> > > PHP qualifies for this too. www.php.net looks pretty messy in NS.
> > >
> > > By the way, both doesn't break NS..
> > >
> > > Bye,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > B.
> > >
> > >
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