Just thought I'd pipe up on this topic, cause its very applicable.
I'm a 4th year Honours CompSci student. I've written some client server
stuff in C (hence a little sockets experience), and I have been using PHP
for a year now.
My *only* complaint of PHP is that all the really fun stuff (memory sharing,
sockets, couple of others) doesn't work for Windows.
I've coded sockets for *nix in C before, but I am rusty. It took me 30
minutes to get familiar and start coding with the new API. The changes are
are very straightforward, and make the socket extension work more like the
rest of PHP. Returning "0" for success and negative numbers just isn't how
PHP does things.
http://introverted.com/php-sockets.html
Considering a very low % of PHP programmers have extensive C socket
experience, I wouldn't worry too much about making it inconvenient. You
guys are just a little biased (IMHO), because you are all talented,
experienced, C programmers.
Anyway.. basically just wanted to say that I have used the new API, it works
well, and I was very happy to see sockets making it to windows.
-Brian Tanner
-----Original Message-----
From: Sascha Schumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: June 24, 2001 2:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About ext/sockets/
Jeroen,
> For lower-scale and home-use you can argue it is easier
> than *nix. So when possible, you should try to support windows.
[..]
> > [looked like C, was easier for ppl with C-background]
>
> I don't think you should target php at C-ppl.
PHP has been since its inception strongly influenced by C.
And as a tool originally conceived on Unix, it should
maintain its roots and continue to provide people familiar
with Unix APIs a convenient way for scripting.
Thus, improved Windows support should not come at the expense
of Unix support without a perfect reason. I'm missing that
reason here.
I haven't looked deeply at what API changes have been
introduced lately, but I'd suggest to use the standard BSD
sockets return value semantics (-1 for failure, >= 0 for
success). Those semantics also prevail in the Winsock
implementation, so they should be quite natural.
- Sascha Experience IRCG
http://schumann.cx/ http://schumann.cx/ircg
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