Don't you think that on some systems (probably with high loads) it might be 
much more efficient to use SMTP than spanning "mail" via fork()/exec()?

Andi

At 09:20 AM 10/19/2001 -0500, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
>For the record, I agree with Rasmus on this one. It sounds silly to
>reinvent the wheel on UNIX.
>
>On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> > On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote:
> >
> > > Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> > >
> > >   > I am really not a big fan of putting smtp code into PHP on UNIX.  The
> > >   > whole philosophy of UNIX is to have a collection of small specialized
> > >   > tools that work together instead of one mammoth tool.  Which UNIX 
> system
> > >   > does not have the ability to send mail?  We really should not be
> > >   > re-inventing every wheel out there.
> > >
> > > #1 unified configuration in php.ini for win *and* unix
> >
> > That's just silly.  The aim is then to implement all the things that don't
> > come standard with Windows but are part of UNIX in PHP?
> >
> > > #2 From: header settings both message and SMTP
> >
> > As long as you have a trusted sender id you can set the From header
> > already on UNIX.
> >
> > > #2 independance of how good the /usr/lib/sendmail binary
> > >     emulation provided by different MTAs (if at all) is
> >
> > So we are going to be rewriting sendmail.  Great.
> >
> > > #4 error checking
> >
> > Hrm.. Maybe, although that could be handled.
> >
> > You completely lose the most important feature.  A non-blocking mail()
> > call which queues the message.  Having a web app wait on an smtp delivery
> > is crap.  Mail should be delivered out of band.
> >
> > > what happens today if you have an application that does more
> > > then just simple informative messages with PHP is that you
> > > stay away from mail() altogether and talk SMTP using fsockopen()
> > > as the sendmail binary interface is just not up to what you need
> >
> > I haven't seen anybody do this on UNIX.
> >
> > -Rasmus
> >
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>-Andrei
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