At 01:08 AM 3/16/2002 +0100, Stig S. Bakken wrote: >On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 22:08, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > At 21:36 13/03/2002, Shane Caraveo wrote: > > > > I thought we weren't wasting any more time with this? :) > > > > > >Yeah, I'm getting realy tired of having to argue for something that should > > >be a base part of the language. > > > > Kodus on the tactics :) > >I understand Shane's point of view very well here. PHP _needs_ a way of >loading modules at runtime, not some half-solution like preloading from >php.ini or directories where everything is preloaded. I had given up on >this one until Shane popped out of the woodwork.
Stig, It doesn't *need* a way of loading modules at run-time. I completely disagree with that as I believe that the ability to load shared objects at server startup is more than enough. Except for you guys thinking it's cool I don't think it's something which is desperately needed. Personally even if PHP had the ability of dynamically loading at run-time I wouldn't use it. I always prefer setting up my environment in a deterministic way. >What I don't understand is your insisting on that dynamically loading >extensions at runtime in PHP is not possible, when it is possible in for >example Perl running as a MT server plugin. It just doesn't make >sense. If you don't have enough interest in runtime loading to find >time to implement it, that's fine, but please say so instead of fighting >the whole idea. Both Shane and I have enough interst to make an effort. Everything is possible but the way PHP works right now it's extremely difficult. I think you guys often exaggerate on the desperate need of stuff. There is a reason why hundreds of thousands of PHP users haven't begged for it. Most people don't miss it... Also I think the never ending comparison of people to Perl & Python in lots of aspects not only dynamic loading is getting a bit old. Certain developers here say stuff like "Well Perl & Python have it and PHP will stink unless it does the same". Maybe it's time to start using Perl & Python for those people :) I think PHP gives the users lots of stuff those other two languages don't give. Anyway, I'm not trying to be argumentative but let's try and be a bit more realistic here Andi -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
