At 12:25 11/03/2002 -0800, Shane Caraveo wrote: > > At 11:42 11/03/2002 +0200, Marko Karppinen wrote: > > >Shane wrote: > > > > > > > I think dl is an extremely important feature, and issues surrounding >it > > > > should be fixed. > > > > > >I'm absolutely, positively +1 on this. > > > > > >On the Mac OS X side of things, we are in the interesting situation of > > > > Apple should be using php.ini for extensions and not require the user to > > call dl() wich is sucky. > > I still am not quite sure why it's such a big deal to add shared >extensions > > to php.ini. > > I don't agree that PHP extensions necessarily require dl(). There are many > > programs out there in the computer industry (such as Apache) which require > > you to add extensions in an INI file. > >I don't see this as an Apple issue at all, though from the comments I guess >it could fix an issue for that platform as well. > >The issue to me is a matter of usability. I want to have a single >installation of PHP, but may have many different situations under which I >use that installation. Perhaps one application uses modules x, y and z >extensively, another uses a, b and c extensively, and perhaps d very rarely. >Lets say neither uses extensions the other app uses. The current situation >is that I must load all extensions in php.ini irregardless of use, or I must >use -c to specify an ini file, etc. I prefer not to load extensions unless >I really need them, but PHP simply does not provide an easy effective means >to do that. Perl and Python both do and you never have to think about >messing with an ini file. I think far PHP has put far too much reliance on >the ini file.
I don't know many production installations where all extensions wouldn't be dl()'ed within a few seconds even if there are what you call *rarely* used scripts. I think your examples are theoretical and the ini change can be done quite easily even by a dumb automatic installation script. In any case, I still think a solution can be found I just don't have any concrete ideas on how to fix it. By the way, you mentioned perl as an example. I have no idea how perl works in multi-threaded environments but if you say it works very nicely with perl & multi-threaded servers then I take your word for it. Andi -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
