On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Darren J Moffat<[email protected]> wrote:
> Martin Bochnig wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Darren J Moffat<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Martin Bochnig wrote:
>>>
>>>> What about "-R <alternate root>" ?
>>>
>>> What about it ?  That support is already there and is used for installing
>>> zones and image-update.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Darren J Moffat
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hello, I meant, what about just test-installing 1 or more packages
>> into an empty alternate root. Then you need to be able to override
>> deps (because obviously the new root doesn't contain anything yet). In
>> the old days of SVR4 pkgadd this has been possible. Is it possible
>> now?
>
> To "just test" install of a package you don't need to ignore dependencies.
> I think of two reasons why you would want to ignore dependencies:
>
>        1) time to install all the dependencies
>        2) space need to install all the dependencies
>        Are there others ?
>
> Neither of those are an issue on OpenSolaris any more.  Both are resolved by
> using beadm to create a new boot environment from the current one.  ZFS
> saves you the time and the space since the new be is a clone of an existing
> one (and it doesn't have to be the one you are running).
>
> You can even have the new be be given to a zone and test booting with your
> new packages.
>
> Other than the "broken dependencies" issue why else would you want to skip
> dependencies ?
>
> Note I'm not arguing this one way I'm just trying to get all the facts out
> into the discussion and make sure everyone arguing one side or the other
> sees them all.
>
> --
> Darren J Moffat



Good. I'm not ranting or anything.
IPS, beadm, ZFS and friends have gone a long way.
Respect and congrats to the engineers,
thanks to Sun for sponsoring OpenSolaris))
I just think it could not harm to have this option on board once again.
OS20yy.mm removes too many decisions from the administrator. What's
next? Printing labels "Throwing this computer in the ocean might
damage the equipment ..." ?


--
Martin
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