Lars,
Yes, Equinox has some of the worst problems. E.g., I had endless fun
getting the (p2) ant jars to build and currently have tasks to modify
files to fix that problem. Those really should get committed too. Of
course I will want others to review and approve of the changes I make,
so I still need someone who is active in terms of final submits...
Cheers,
Ed
On 23.08.2019 07:03, Lars Vogel wrote:
Hi Ed,
Cleanup in the repos is very much appreciated.
You are already platform committer so you should be able to finish
them directly.
I can nominate you as Equinox committer so that you can commit your
cleans directly to p2/Equinox. Ok for you?
Best regards, Lars
Ed Merks <ed.me...@gmail.com <mailto:ed.me...@gmail.com>> schrieb am
Fr., 23. Aug. 2019, 05:35:
Guys,
Keep in mind that you might not actually want to turn this mailing
list into a user question and answer mailing list; you'd probably
want a separate one for that purpose.
But take note that it's super easy to set up a feed monitor for
the forum(s), which are actively used, even if so few of you
monitor them:
It's configured like this for Thunderbird:
In the end, monitoring this or a mailing list (that you'd likely
want to filter into folder so you can manage your inbox
effectively) is really not so entirely different. Perhaps this
ought to be more a question of what's actually best for the people
asking the questions rather than what's preferred by the people
who might or might not choose to answer them.
Also note that many questions are of course directed to the
Newcomers forum because users don't generally know where to go to
ask questions. Nitin and I are effectively the only people
(committers) who answer questions there, most often to direct
people to the right forum, though I would never direct people to
the Platform forum because I know it's generally not well
monitored; if there is to be an answer there, it will likely come
from me, so rather pointless to redirect people there.
I don't get the general impression that as a whole we facilitate a
good general impression to the community in terms of helpfulness
on the forum nor responsiveness on Bugzillas. We simply all
generally have better things to do than that. That being said,
compliments to the JDT team; they're doing an excellent job!
Even from personal experience on this front, I often shake my
head. I update my full Eclipse SDK IDE installation, pulling all
the repos and reresolving the TP to import any new projects but
then low and behold I have new build path errors in my workspace;
not a sea of red, but just a bit of red flotsam. So I figure out
why something is wrong (yet again), open a bug, and commit to
Gerrit a trivial fix:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=550190
Surprisingly it gets a review quickly! But there it sits now, so
new contributors will see not a sea of red but some annoying
flotsam, which of course they'll see as an Oomph problem, when in
fact it's simply a fundamental challenge to manage what will
typically be a sea of red unless properly managed.
It all sometimes make me question, why should I care? But then
Rolf sends a note and I am heartened that I'm not the only one who
cares.
While I'm complaining, I must say the sea or orange does not
inspire great confidence either:
Nor is the fact that many repos are dirty after a build terribly
helpful to contributors. I could try to commit fixes for all
those things too, mostly proper .gitignores, but the question
remains, should I personally care? Will someone look at and
complete the Gerrit contributions?
Regards,
Ed
On 22.08.2019 19:14, Rolf Theunissen wrote:
I noticed that the mentioned example bugs got some attention. For
reference, to get an overview of all bugs reported by users that
don't have Bugzilla edit rights that did not receive comments,
use the following query:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&email1=%25group.editbugs%25&emailreporter1=1&emailtype1=notequals&f1=longdescs.count&list_id=18907057&o1=equals&order=bug_id%20DESC&product=Platform&query_format=advanced&v1=1
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