Hi Rolf and other friends of Eclipse committers Even more important would IMHO monitoring the incoming Gerrit contributions. Last time I checked we had many pending Gerrits from non- committers.
This is double bad compared to ignored bug reports IMHO as these users did not only report a problem but also worked on a solution. Last time I checked we had more than lots of open Gerrits for platform.ui from non committers without a comment for a longer time. https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/q/project:platform/eclipse.platform.ui+status:open Best regards, Lars Lars Vogel <lars.vo...@vogella.com> schrieb am Fr., 23. Aug. 2019, 07:59: > Hi Ed, > > great to hear. I started the nomination. > > https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/eclipse.equinox/elections/election-ed-merks-committer-eclipse-equinox > > Trivial changes are typically committed directly by the committer without > review. I also hope that you will be able to help improving p2, AFAIK you > are a heavy user of it. > > If you need feedback on complex changes in Equinox and p2, I recommend > adding proactively experts to the reviews and to ask for reviews. > > Best regards, Lars > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 7:40 AM Ed Merks <ed.me...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Lars, >> >> Yes, Equinox has some of the worst problems. E.g., I had endless fun >> getting the (p2) ant jars to build and currently have tasks to modify files >> to fix that problem. Those really should get committed too. Of course I >> will want others to review and approve of the changes I make, so I still >> need someone who is active in terms of final submits... >> >> Cheers, >> Ed >> >> >> On 23.08.2019 07:03, Lars Vogel wrote: >> >> Hi Ed, >> >> Cleanup in the repos is very much appreciated. >> >> You are already platform committer so you should be able to finish them >> directly. >> >> I can nominate you as Equinox committer so that you can commit your >> cleans directly to p2/Equinox. Ok for you? >> >> Best regards, Lars >> >> >> >> >> >> Ed Merks <ed.me...@gmail.com> schrieb am Fr., 23. Aug. 2019, 05:35: >> >>> Guys, >>> >>> Keep in mind that you might not actually want to turn this mailing list >>> into a user question and answer mailing list; you'd probably want a >>> separate one for that purpose. >>> >>> But take note that it's super easy to set up a feed monitor for the >>> forum(s), which are actively used, even if so few of you monitor them: >>> >>> It's configured like this for Thunderbird: >>> >>> In the end, monitoring this or a mailing list (that you'd likely want >>> to filter into folder so you can manage your inbox effectively) is really >>> not so entirely different. Perhaps this ought to be more a question of >>> what's actually best for the people asking the questions rather than what's >>> preferred by the people who might or might not choose to answer them. >>> >>> Also note that many questions are of course directed to the Newcomers >>> forum because users don't generally know where to go to ask questions. >>> Nitin and I are effectively the only people (committers) who answer >>> questions there, most often to direct people to the right forum, though I >>> would never direct people to the Platform forum because I know it's >>> generally not well monitored; if there is to be an answer there, it will >>> likely come from me, so rather pointless to redirect people there. >>> >>> I don't get the general impression that as a whole we facilitate a good >>> general impression to the community in terms of helpfulness on the forum >>> nor responsiveness on Bugzillas. We simply all generally have better >>> things to do than that. That being said, compliments to the JDT team; >>> they're doing an excellent job! >>> >>> Even from personal experience on this front, I often shake my head. I >>> update my full Eclipse SDK IDE installation, pulling all the repos and >>> reresolving the TP to import any new projects but then low and behold I >>> have new build path errors in my workspace; not a sea of red, but just a >>> bit of red flotsam. So I figure out why something is wrong (yet again), >>> open a bug, and commit to Gerrit a trivial fix: >>> >>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=550190 >>> >>> Surprisingly it gets a review quickly! But there it sits now, so new >>> contributors will see not a sea of red but some annoying flotsam, which of >>> course they'll see as an Oomph problem, when in fact it's simply a >>> fundamental challenge to manage what will typically be a sea of red unless >>> properly managed. >>> >>> It all sometimes make me question, why should I care? But then Rolf >>> sends a note and I am heartened that I'm not the only one who cares. >>> >>> While I'm complaining, I must say the sea or orange does not inspire >>> great confidence either: >>> >>> Nor is the fact that many repos are dirty after a build terribly helpful >>> to contributors. I could try to commit fixes for all those things too, >>> mostly proper .gitignores, but the question remains, should I personally >>> care? Will someone look at and complete the Gerrit contributions? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ed >>> >>> >>> On 22.08.2019 19:14, Rolf Theunissen wrote: >>> >>> I noticed that the mentioned example bugs got some attention. For >>> reference, to get an overview of all bugs reported by users that don't have >>> Bugzilla edit rights that did not receive comments, use the following query: >>> >>> >>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&email1=%25group.editbugs%25&emailreporter1=1&emailtype1=notequals&f1=longdescs.count&list_id=18907057&o1=equals&order=bug_id%20DESC&product=Platform&query_format=advanced&v1=1 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> platform-dev mailing listplatform-...@eclipse.org >>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >>> from this list, visithttps://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> platform-dev mailing list >>> platform-dev@eclipse.org >>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >>> from this list, visit >>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> platform-dev mailing listplatform-...@eclipse.org >> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from >> this list, visithttps://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> platform-dev mailing list >> platform-dev@eclipse.org >> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >> from this list, visit >> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-dev > > > > -- > Eclipse Platform project co-lead > CEO vogella GmbH > > Haindaalwisch 17a, 22395 Hamburg > Amtsgericht Hamburg: HRB 127058 > Geschäftsführer: Lars Vogel, Jennifer Nerlich de Vogel > USt-IdNr.: DE284122352 > Fax (040) 5247 6322, Email: lars.vo...@vogella.com, Web: > http://www.vogella.com >
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