the downside for these processors is their mainboards are still very pricy to buy. much more than the CPU itself. you are almost better off looking for and buying a refurbished server which you can get for almost ludicrously inexpensive prices.
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 1:56 PM Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > The CPU's cheap because it's old and no one wants them anymore -- it's of > the same generation as 6000 series intel processors (i.e. skylake). It also > uses a server socket, so the only motherboards you're going to be able to > find are server motherboards. Those are going to be expensive and/or have > other quirks, such as requiring a vendor specific heatsink, or a > vendor-specific power supply, or take 5 minutes to start up, etc. > > You'd be better off spending money on a last-gen cpu and motherboard, for > instance here's a combination that is relatively cheap: > > $174 for an i5-12400, which according to cpubenchmark.net is nearly 30% > faster than the Xeon you linked (score of 19501 vs 15146, much faster > single-core score as well): > > https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-12400-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NMPD8V2/ > > $139 for a compatible motherboard: > https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B760M-DS3H-AX-Motherboard/dp/B0BSP61QZC/ > > I also wouldn't pay so much attention to the number of "threads" you think > you'll need; you can run many VMs with a total number of virtual processors > that is much more than what you actually have, and as long as you're not > trying to go whole hog on every machine at the same time you'll be fine, > and even if you do, you'll still be better off with a faster processor with > a few fewer threads than an older slower cpu with more. > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > Hi, > > I was surfing the Inter Web when I happened upon a Xeon server CPU. It > is marked at $32.49 at Newegg. It has 12 cores and 24 threads and has a > good benchmark score. > > https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+Silver+4116+%40+2.10GHz&id=3179 > > https://www.newegg.com/p/274-000A-007K2?Description=Xeon > > In the future at some point I would like to build something with 20 plus > or minus cores and 40 threads more or less for Proxmox. This would be > over kills because I only need 1 or 2 VMs active at one time... maybe 3 > in an extreme situation. > > This 12 core/24 thread CPU with 64Gb of Ram and a 1Tb SSD would really > be more resources than I would ever need. Off the top of my head this > means I might be able to build a decent Proxmox server for $500 - $600. > > I do not need fancy video except for one VM that might be running Win 10 > or 11... I assume a server grade CPU would handle Win 10 and 11? > > Am I on the right track? > > Thank You For Your Feedback!! > > Keith > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen
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