Thanks!!

On 2023-07-20 11:36, Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss wrote:
I personally wouldn't even go for a used server. They're generally
loud, and even when they aren't they use much more electricity than
what you would get from a consumer platform. There's really no benefit
unless you have room in your house to make a real server room with
racks and the electrical capacity to go along with it.

On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, at 10:59 AM, Stephen Partington wrote:

the downside for these processors is their mainboards are still very
pricy to buy. much more than the CPU itself. you are almost better
off looking for and buying a refurbished server which you can get
for almost ludicrously inexpensive prices.

On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 1:56 PM Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss
<plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

The CPU's cheap because it's old and no one wants them anymore --
it's of the same generation as 6000 series intel processors (i.e.
skylake). It also uses a server socket, so the only motherboards
you're going to be able to find are server motherboards. Those are
going to be expensive and/or have other quirks, such as requiring a
vendor specific heatsink, or a vendor-specific power supply, or take
5 minutes to start up, etc.

You'd be better off spending money on a last-gen cpu and
motherboard, for instance here's a combination that is relatively
cheap:

$174 for an i5-12400, which according to cpubenchmark.net [1] is
nearly 30% faster than the Xeon you linked (score of 19501 vs 15146,
much faster single-core score as well):


https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-12400-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NMPD8V2/

$139 for a compatible motherboard:


https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B760M-DS3H-AX-Motherboard/dp/B0BSP61QZC/

I also wouldn't pay so much attention to the number of "threads" you
think you'll need; you can run many VMs with a total number of
virtual processors that is much more than what you actually have,
and as long as you're not trying to go whole hog on every machine at
the same time you'll be fine, and even if you do, you'll still be
better off with a faster processor with a few fewer threads than an
older slower cpu with more.

On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
wrote:

Hi,

I was surfing the Inter Web when I happened upon a Xeon server CPU.
It

is marked at $32.49 at Newegg.  It has 12 cores and 24 threads and
has a

good benchmark score.


https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+Silver+4116+%40+2.10GHz&id=3179

https://www.newegg.com/p/274-000A-007K2?Description=Xeon

In the future at some point I would like to build something with 20
plus

or minus cores and 40 threads more or less for Proxmox.  This would
be

over kills because I only need 1 or 2 VMs active at one time...
maybe 3

in an extreme situation.

This 12 core/24 thread CPU with 64Gb of Ram and a 1Tb SSD would
really

be more resources than I would ever need.  Off the top of my head
this

means I might be able to build a decent Proxmox server for $500 -
$600.

I do not need fancy video except for one VM that might be running
Win 10

or 11...  I assume a server grade CPU would handle Win 10 and 11?

Am I on the right track?

Thank You For Your Feedback!!

Keith

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