I personally wouldn't even go for a used server. They're generally loud, and even when they aren't they use much more electricity than what you would get from a consumer platform. There's really no benefit unless you have room in your house to make a real server room with racks and the electrical capacity to go along with it.
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, at 10:59 AM, Stephen Partington wrote: > the downside for these processors is their mainboards are still very pricy to > buy. much more than the CPU itself. you are almost better off looking for and > buying a refurbished server which you can get for almost ludicrously > inexpensive prices. > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 1:56 PM Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss > <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> __ >> The CPU's cheap because it's old and no one wants them anymore -- it's of >> the same generation as 6000 series intel processors (i.e. skylake). It also >> uses a server socket, so the only motherboards you're going to be able to >> find are server motherboards. Those are going to be expensive and/or have >> other quirks, such as requiring a vendor specific heatsink, or a >> vendor-specific power supply, or take 5 minutes to start up, etc. >> >> You'd be better off spending money on a last-gen cpu and motherboard, for >> instance here's a combination that is relatively cheap: >> >> $174 for an i5-12400, which according to cpubenchmark.net is nearly 30% >> faster than the Xeon you linked (score of 19501 vs 15146, much faster >> single-core score as well): >> https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-12400-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NMPD8V2/ >> >> $139 for a compatible motherboard: >> https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B760M-DS3H-AX-Motherboard/dp/B0BSP61QZC/ >> >> I also wouldn't pay so much attention to the number of "threads" you think >> you'll need; you can run many VMs with a total number of virtual processors >> that is much more than what you actually have, and as long as you're not >> trying to go whole hog on every machine at the same time you'll be fine, and >> even if you do, you'll still be better off with a faster processor with a >> few fewer threads than an older slower cpu with more. >> >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was surfing the Inter Web when I happened upon a Xeon server CPU. It >>> is marked at $32.49 at Newegg. It has 12 cores and 24 threads and has a >>> good benchmark score. >>> https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+Silver+4116+%40+2.10GHz&id=3179 >>> >>> https://www.newegg.com/p/274-000A-007K2?Description=Xeon >>> >>> In the future at some point I would like to build something with 20 plus >>> or minus cores and 40 threads more or less for Proxmox. This would be >>> over kills because I only need 1 or 2 VMs active at one time... maybe 3 >>> in an extreme situation. >>> >>> This 12 core/24 thread CPU with 64Gb of Ram and a 1Tb SSD would really >>> be more resources than I would ever need. Off the top of my head this >>> means I might be able to build a decent Proxmox server for $500 - $600. >>> >>> I do not need fancy video except for one VM that might be running Win 10 >>> or 11... I assume a server grade CPU would handle Win 10 and 11? >>> >>> Am I on the right track? >>> >>> Thank You For Your Feedback!! >>> >>> Keith >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen
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