On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 06:55, Joe Pruett <j...@clean.q7.com> wrote:

> i have nothing to do with psu, but have been part of a university
> computing staff.  i think you are overestimating the resources available
> to a university computing group.

hah, to say the least.  that was my past (and hopefully) future life
(at a different university), and though the CS department whom i
worked for kept downtime to a minimum (aside from a flood and a rat
literally bridging a 100kV circuit and blowing up the box that brought
the building electricity), we still had scheduled outages.  things
like migrating home directories to a new fileserver requires some time
when 1000 users aren't logged in and modifying files.  similarly
infrastructure work (electricity, plumbing--how do you think the
machine room cooler works?  & what happens when it needs maintenance?)

 ohsu is an unfair comparison because
> they are a hospital and therefore have some compliance requirements
> (hipaa) that allow them to invest in more sophisticated systems.

haha, "allow".  force!  but also, mission critical in a hospital is
life and death.

> when i was involved (more than 20 years ago), it was considered completely
> normal to have the computer system down for the entire week between xmas
> and new years.  nowadays i'm sure that isn't common anymore, but a partial
> day outage seems pretty mild in comparison.

agreed.  i mean, our e-commerce sites have less downtime, but they
also have way fewer moving parts than a 25k+ user network, and only 3
actual users.
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