On Mon, 2002-09-30 at 04:03, Rick Moen wrote:
> KDE is _not_ a window manager. Nor is GNOME. The window
> manager you're using is almost certainly kwm. Look in
> the "ps auxw | more" output, and see for yourself.
thanks for pointing that out. i do know the difference, however
i tend to ignore it (maybe i shouldn't when on technical lists
like PLUG, but i do anyway). most people are interested in
what their windowing environment can do for them, so most
of those people will care about a discussion of X at a higher
level than a discussion of the distinction between windows
managers and desktop environments.
> The taskbar is an X11 application. As such, it can be run under
> any window manager whatsoever, as long as its dependencies are
> present
yeah, i haven't tried that, since icewm provides its own and it
"works for me". what i need though is the desktop on which i
can put icons. icewm doesn't have that.
> The "desktop" and "multiple desktops" you're used to are very likely
> an artifact of your window manager (which is probably kwm).
hmmm, it'd be interesting if kwm (with it's "desktop icons") capability
could be used apart from the full KDE system. i kind of doubt it
though (with no evidence, i haven't actually googled around for it :).
KDE is too integrated and it seems you need to get everything to
get anything to work.
> Please note that you could run kwm (and the taskbar you like so much)
> without the rest of KDE.
yeah, i'm sure you're right (although it's not the taskbar i like so
much, icewm has a good enough one, it's the background desktop with
the ability to put "shortcuts" on it, hehe, what is the linux word
for "shortcuts"? i can't stand that word, but it fits. links?
icons?).
> Please note that you could use icewm inside the KDE "desktop" framework,
> instead of kwm.
and *that* i'm interested in. i don't have a lot of time to play
with though. and i don't know the magic words to get google to
cough up the howto. well, maybe i'll play around with that a little.
after i get xpde tested, and php DBG working.
tiger
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