> > Thats your point of view, I have mine.
> > And i respect yours, so respect mine.
>
> I'm sorry but i totally disagree.  This is not something which one can
> argue one's way past.  Telnet over ssl as a solution to network security
> is so much more inferior to SSH, and in fact, does not even merit one's
> curiosity and time to explore.

Btw, i never point out that telnet over ssl is inferior or even a clone and
i never said a solution for network security.. which you are bragging about.
And i dont have a problem with that.

Opinion mo yan. (w/c part?: respecting one's view on a certain field. :)


-
Louie

----- Original Message -----
From: "ian sison (mailing list)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Philippine Linux Users Group Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [plug] Telnet Problem


> On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Louie Miranda wrote:
>
> > > And my point is why even bother?  When every modern linux distribution
> > > comes with SSH.
> >
> > Again, its not for you. Its for those who want to try it for curiousity
> > sake. Im not suggesting it you use it. Only for those who want to!
> >
> > >  When SSH has so much more security features than plain
> > >  telnet over ssl?
> >
> > Comment lang kta dito.. "plain telnet over ssl" its not plain anymore
when
> > you put it over in the "secure socket layer" the traffic becomes more
secure
> > by encrypting it using SSL. Your passwords and the data you send will
not go
> > in cleartext over the line.
>
> This is only one aspect about security of remote shell logins that telnet
> over ssl solves.
>
> > Its simple, its like https. Or pop3 over ssl, stunnel.
>
> Quoting:
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200305/msg03935.html
>
> SSH was not created as a clone of the spop3 or stunnel or https.  It also
> attempts to solve other problems aside from the above.
>
> > And this is your point. "Basically that is what ssh/d is designed for.
So
> > why use it?"
> > My Answer, its not for you. Its for those who are interested to gain
more
> > experience rather than using those default packages.
>
> This is like saying "if you are interested, you can try this new security
> tool.  It's called a hook and eye.  It will keep your door shut and seems
> to do a good job of it.  Try and experience it, and by the way it's an
> alternative to that thing called a dead-bolt which by the way, you also
> already have.
>
> > Whereas telnet over SSL is a workaround to make telnet act more like
SSH.
>
> SSH attempts to solve a lot more problems associated with remote shell
> sessions than simple encryption of the data passing through the transport
> medium.
>
> > Thats your point of view, I have mine.
> > And i respect yours, so respect mine.
>
> I'm sorry but i totally disagree.  This is not something which one can
> argue one's way past.  Telnet over ssl as a solution to network security
> is so much more inferior to SSH, and in fact, does not even merit one's
> curiosity and time to explore.
>
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