Sammy, There are issues about the membership - in the last GA that I sponsored in UP, we had a membership drive there. I am "still" a member, I hope. :D
Cheers! On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:49:39 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paolo, The polices as well as the rationale look okay. The changes are > really needed as times have changed. Pls keep in mind that not all > members could attend the GAs. Maybe you can also stipulate a > requirement on GA attendance for a plug member to be in "good > standing"...unless there's already such a provision. > > Regarding your comment (separate e-mail) on lifetime membership, there > could be provisions (probably existing already) in the plug constitution > that could be "self-limiting". For example, when a member (lifetime or > annual membership) has certain attributes or fits certain > descriptions/qualifications (e.g., against linux already), the > membership could be revoked by the board. Something like that. > > Rommel, I guess you need to sign up so you can lobby/present your > proposal. 8^) > > Sammy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paolo Alexis Falcone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:36 AM > To: Philippine Linux Users' Group > Subject: Re: [plug] Proceedings of the PLUG General Assembly, 18 > December 2004 > > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:16:48 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paolo, > > > > In that case, can you pls extract that part of the by-laws / > > constitution which juridically elaborates on institutional and > > individual membership? > > Excerpts from the PLUG Constitution, Chapter V: Membership: > > "Any person, whether an individual or juridical, can be apply and > maintain membership provided that the person passes the following > qualifications: > > 1. Individual members must be willing to abide to the constitution and > all legal laws promulgated by PLUG. They must also exhibit verifiable > willingness to become members of PLUG and interest in the further > advancement of open source. > > 2. Juridical members must be willing to abide to the constitution and > all legal laws promulgated by PLUG. They must also exhibit verifiable > willingness to become members of PLUG and must have conducted a free > open source-related project and/or activity prior to application for > membership. > > Individual and juridical members shall be required to pay reasonable > membership fees as deemed appropriate as well as present at least two > valid IDs. > > A membership for one fiscal year shall be granted for qualified persons; > after which the said membership status can be renewed by the member at > his own discretion granted he passes the qualifications for membership. > > To be considered in good standing, a member must not have outstanding > financial obligations and/or other liabilities to the organization upon > the time that such requirement would be checked as well as abide by all > existing regulations and by-laws of PLUG. > > A special committee shall be formed by the president consisting of > appointed members which shall take charge of qualifying members and > applicants. > > New applicants seeking membership to PLUG must be qualified for > membership using the criteria stated above, and must be sponsored by two > members in good standing as a means for ascertaining that such a person > exists. > > Violations of the provisions of this constitution and promulgated > regulations shall be considered as grounds for revocation or denial of > granting membership." > > > PLUG membership was initially designed to be free...that anyone who > > joins this mailing list is automatically a member. Dunno if the > > archives of the list captured that thought. Maybe some of the oldies > > could say something about this. > > There were dissenting opinions on this. There are some quarters that > claim that "to be a PLUG member, one has to be active in its > activities." This is the same reason why membership is very vague. > That itself is much more vague, as there's no metric to define 'to be > active'. After numerous meetings and deliberations, the current board > qualified the metric for being a PLUG member. > > > The old membership "policy"/style was made that way to welcome newbies > > > and experts alike as well as to promote linux. With a change in > > membership policy, it is proper to inform everyone in this mailing > > list on the details such as rationale for the change, what the changes > > > are, date of effectivity, et al. > > As member of the board, we felt the need to "clarify" the vague > mechanism of "membership" if we could even call it a policy. There were > dissenting opinions back then as to what qualifies someone to become a > member of PLUG. Given the vagueness of policy, technically the board as > convened during the time of drafting the constitution would have been > the only members. Given such assumption being the basis on working on > the constitution, we had to pursue a binding document that would confer > membership, which is why we passed resolutions declaring individual and > juridical membership. > > With the qualifications of membership enshrined in the constitution, our > hope is that there would be a metric from which policies can be drafted > to enact the guidelines, just like what an organization should have. It > was the intention of the board to formalize the mechanisms of membership > to dispel vagueness in policy, as well as for the protection of the > organization - that the organization would not be used as springboard to > propel individualistic agenda or promotion. > > I think the first email regarding the proceedings stated the date of the > ratification of the constitution and by-laws of PLUG. It is not thorough > nor "complete to the last detail" but it should serve as a good start > for any activities that the organization is to undertake, policies to be > crafted, or where to start amending the by-laws upon compliance to the > mechanisms stated therein. > > There was an announcement for the ratification of the constitution since > last month afaik, as part of the announcement for the PLUG General > Assembly. I think we didn't lack in the effort of informing everyone > about this. > > Anyway, quoting the PLUG Constitution, Chapter XII: Effectivity: > "This constitution shall take effect upon approval of the Board. > The provision of this Constitution shall be prospective in character and > nature." > > > As for Rommel's suggestion, pls also post the mechanisms for > amendments. > > Those concerned might be interested to know what the current board > > feels about this proposal. > > Excerpts from the PLUG Constitution, Chapter XI: Amendments: > "Amendments to the constitution can be done by members in good standing, > and must be sponsored by a member of the board of directors. > > Ratification of amendments shall be done via convening of a general > assembly voting in quorum. Quorum shall be defined as at the very least > 50% of eligible voters plus one more person. Rules for casting of votes > for the proposed amendments shall be the same as the regulations for > casting votes for the composition of the board." > > With the passage of the resolutions, we then declared who'd be the > "eligible voters". > > > I propose that the minutes of meetings be posted here since not all > > members of this list are able to attend face-to-face meetings. This > > will also help promote linux and plug. > > It was only recently that we posted proceedings of PLUG GA's as this was > the first one that was conducted by the present board. > > -- > Paolo Alexis Falcone > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Official Website: http://plug.linux.org.ph > Searchable Archives: http://marc.free.net.ph . > To leave, go to http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/plug > . > Are you a Linux newbie? To join the newbie list, go to > http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/ph-linux-newbie > > -- > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) > Official Website: http://plug.linux.org.ph > Searchable Archives: http://marc.free.net.ph > . > To leave, go to http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/plug > . > Are you a Linux newbie? To join the newbie list, go to > http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/ph-linux-newbie > -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Official Website: http://plug.linux.org.ph Searchable Archives: http://marc.free.net.ph . To leave, go to http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/plug . Are you a Linux newbie? To join the newbie list, go to http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/ph-linux-newbie
