Here's the output from 'free' in crosh with the Debian VM running:
crosh> shell
chronos@localhost / $ sudo su -
localhost ~ # free -tm
total used free shared buff/cache
available
Mem: 3806 2732 231 287 842
369
Swap: 5575 2352 3222
Total: 9381 5084 3454
And here's 'free' from within the Debian VM:
rwcitek@penguin:~$ free -tm
total used free shared buff/cache
available
Mem: 2777 8 2744 0 25
2769
Swap: 0 0 0
Total: 2777 8 2744
This is on a Dell 3100 2-in-1. So, this is an Intel Celeron and not a
Snapdragon CPU.
localhost ~ # grep name /proc/cpuinfo | uniq -c
2 model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) N4020 CPU @ 1.10GHz
What are you wanting to do in Linux? I'd be happy to try it out.
Regards,
- Robert
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 10:18 PM John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> wrote:
> Robert,
>
> The Chromebook that is at the top of my list at the moment has only 4GB
> RAM. Installing and running Debian (or others) in a container worries
> me. When you are running Linux in a container, how much RAM is taken in
> all by Chrome OS and Debian?
>
> I plan to use the tablet mostly for reading electronic editions of
> books and academic journals. I would install an SD card for storage,
> and I would never store things online or read things online. I would
> boot first to Chrome OS and then to Linux, which is all I would use. The
> tablet would seldom leave the house and would not be used for e-mail or
> web browsing.
>
> I realize that many consider me crazy to refuse storing things in the
> cloud, but my brain is already plenty cloudy without that. When I read
> something I want a copy of it on my own computer, not someplace in the
> cloud that I have no control over.
>
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:09:06 -0700
> Robert Citek <robert.ci...@gmail.com> dijo:
>
> >Same scenario here. I use the Chromebook for its standard features:
> >browsing, email, chat, music. I use the Linux VM ( container? ) with
> >Debian to do some light work in the shell or in a Docker container.
> >For heavier loads, I use the cloud ( AWS, GCP, Azure, etc. ). I have
> >Docker containers that have the corresponding CLI tools for working
> >with those APIs. I just pass in my credential and run with it. For
> >example, I recently had to do some work in Windows 11. I fired up an
> >instance on Azure via the API and connected to it using the RDP client
> >on the Chromebook.
> >
> >One feature I really like about the Chromebook is the Powerwash. If I
> >mess things up too badly, I can restore to factory defaults really
> >quickly. Chrome OS reinstalls my apps and some settings. The only
> >manual steps are to enable Linux and a few other items. I then have
> >scripts that configure my Linux environment and install my favorite
> >packages. For example, one script creates symlinks to my Google
> >Drive. I can access all my remote files as if they were local at
> >~/GoogleDrive. I’m not sure how Chrome OS mounts the remote file store
> >but sshfs might be the way ( just a guess. ) All the normal tools work
> >just fine on them: cat, grep, sed, awk, find, etc.
> >
> >Talking about things I have not figured out, Chrome OS seems to be
> >running an X-server since GUI programs like xterm and ImageMagick run
> >just fine.
> >
> >One item that is missing is a configuration manager for Chrome OS
> >settings. For example, whenever I Powerwash, I have to configure
> >manually my mouse and touchpad settings in addition to enabling Linux.
> >It would be really nice to have Ansible, Salt, Puppet, Chef, or
> >similar tool to configure those. Haven’t found anything, yet. Given
> >that all that is done through the browser, I’m wondering if
> >Tampermonkey might be the appropriate tool. Chrome reinstalls it after
> >every Powerwash.
> >
> >Regards,
> >- Robert
> >
> >On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 2:03 PM Timothy Scoppetta
> ><scoppet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> My only experience with running linux (ubuntu) natively was with the
> >> original CR-48 prototype devices. On those linux ran like a dream
> >> but the touchpad was a nightmare with no drivers to tweak. The
> >> installation process was a breeze even back when chromebooks were
> >> new . My plan has always been to reinstall when I ran into something
> >> that needed "real" linux. I'm still waiting for that something.
> >>
> >> Anything I can't do locally I do in GCP where I keep a few systems
> >> powered down. I mount my homedir from a synology NAS in the closet.
> >> It's a workflow that works very well for me. There's even a
> >> globalprotect client for ChromeOS for those stodgy work connections.
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 7:35 AM Robert Citek <robert.ci...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Thanks for your post, Timothy.
> >> >
> >> > I have almost the same environment here: read/listen to books on
> >> smartphone
> >> > or tablet or Kindle, otherwise use a Chromebook ( rarely, I'll use
> >> > my MacBookPro). In fact, if I need a "real" linux ( or Windows )
> >> environment,
> >> > I just create one in the cloud and then ssh/RDP into it from the
> >> > Chromebook. I can even do that from my tablets which have Bluetooth
> >> > keyboards.
> >> >
> >> > Have you ( or anyone else ) tried the dev_install script in the
> >> > crosh
> >> shell
> >> > to then use emerge to install software in Chrome OS? I've been
> >> > able to install some things ( like tcpdump ), but not other things
> >> > ( like gcc ).
> >> >
> >> > Have you ( or anyone else ) tried booting a different distro from
> >> > either
> >> a
> >> > USB or SD card? If so, how did that go? I have not, yet, but
> >> > that's in
> >> my
> >> > queue.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > - Robert
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 12:40 PM Timothy Scoppetta
> >> > <scoppet...@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I use a kindle for the original use case described but my
> >> > > Pixelbook Go
> >> is
> >> > > the best linux netbook (does that term still exist?) I've ever
> >> > > owned. I
> >> > run
> >> > > a full debian install in a container and have yet to find any
> >> > > app or
> >> tool
> >> > > (GUI or command line) that I can't get working locally. I
> >> > > haven't tried heavyweights like gimp or bitwig and I definitely
> >> > > wouldn't suggest compiling on it.
> >> > >
> >> > > Happy to answer any questions about existing in the ecosystem, I
> >> > > use it daily and for me it works great.
> >> > >
> >> > > This is the one I've had for a little under a year:
> >> > > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YMGQYP6/
> >> > > --
> >> > > Timothy Scoppetta
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Timothy Scoppetta
> >>
> >> P: 845-459-3002
> >> E: scoppet...@gmail.com
> >>
>
